Is the American Pale Wheat Ale dying?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by johnnybgood1999, Feb 6, 2019.

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Have you seen a drop or disappearance of American Pale Wheat Ales

  1. Yes

    29 vote(s)
    54.7%
  2. No

    18 vote(s)
    34.0%
  3. What are American Pale Wheat Ales

    6 vote(s)
    11.3%
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  1. algebeeric_topology

    algebeeric_topology Pooh-Bah (2,052) Dec 30, 2014 Florida
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    isn't new england ipa just hopped up pale wheat ale?

    edit: to avoid arguments as per whether or not hops can be associated with the style, from BA:

    Higher carbonation is proper as is a long-lasting head and a light to medium body. German Weizen flavors and aromas of banana esters and clove-like phenols won't be found. Most use a substantial percentage of wheat malt. Hop character could be low or fairly high, but most examples are moderate in bitterness. There may be some fruitiness from ale fermentation though most examples use a fairly neutral ale yeast, resulting in a clean fermentation with little to no diacetyl.
     
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  2. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    While I agree, and certainly there can be some decent ones out there, I think most are simply half assed attempts at making (marketing?) something that’s like a Hefeweizen without actually brewing one.
     
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  3. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Easy street wheat seems to be alive and strong.
     
  4. eldoctorador

    eldoctorador Pooh-Bah (2,096) Dec 12, 2014 Chile
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    Sam Adams Summer Ale and Bell's Oberon sell pretty well at least
     
  5. johnnybgood1999

    johnnybgood1999 Savant (1,000) Oct 31, 2008 Virginia

    I wouldn't argue hops can be associated with the style, but how much? What does fairly high mean before you start getting to an IPA like beer?
     
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  6. johnnybgood1999

    johnnybgood1999 Savant (1,000) Oct 31, 2008 Virginia

    It's also hard to compare from different regions. Some areas may have generally bad examples, while other areas might have better selections.
     
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  7. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Lagunitas Lil' Sumpin' Sumpin'?
     
  8. Hoos78

    Hoos78 Maven (1,327) Mar 3, 2015 Ohio

    Modern Times Fortunate Islands is very hop forward and they’ve rebranded it as a Pale Ale. I don’t think they’ve changed the recipe at all and wheat is still included in the malt bill, but they don’t bring any attention to it in the description.
     
  9. johnnybgood1999

    johnnybgood1999 Savant (1,000) Oct 31, 2008 Virginia

    That's one that came to mind.
     
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  10. rtrasr

    rtrasr Savant (1,032) Feb 16, 2009 Arkansas

    My nominee for Flagship February is Boulevard Wheat.
     
  11. NYRunner

    NYRunner Crusader (420) Nov 5, 2018 New York

    Sam Summer was one of my “gateway” beers when I was discovering craft, and I will drink it fondly, always.
     
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  12. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    A good dryish wheat ale is nice to find. Oberon was always good for another. Hey, these are drinking beers, not thinking beers.....Time and place for everything.
     
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  13. CB_Michigan

    CB_Michigan Pooh-Bah (1,552) Sep 4, 2014 Illinois
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    I love Oberon. Had my first over 20 years ago and It's been a summer staple practically the entire time (spent a couple years outside their distro). Boulevard Wheat is decent, but I just don't get the same enjoyment from it. I've had some locals on draft that are decent, but would be nice to mix things up a bit this summer, though it seems like this style is being pushed off the shelves by an endless expansion of IPAs.

    Gumballhead has something that I must be overly sensitive to in it. I've tried it here and there, and each time I'm just hit in the face with some pungent "stinky feet" aroma. It's just completely overwhelming and covers absolutely everything in unpleasantness.
     
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  14. TrojanRB

    TrojanRB Grand Pooh-Bah (3,779) Jul 27, 2013 Texas
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    You’re right...I didn’t notice the rebrand. Modern Times doesn’t even mention wheat in the description on their website:

    “Fortunate Islands combines the bangin' hop aroma of an über-tropical IPA with the crisp, deeply quenching drinkability of a killer pale ale. We achieve this magical result by starting with a mild, nutty malt backbone, then dry-hopping the bejesus out of it with Citra and Amarillo hops. Restrained bitterness and vibrant notes of mango, tangerine, and passionfruit combine to form a sessionable crusher of mind-bending proportions. It tastes like wizards.”
     
  15. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Can't say I've ever been inclined to "taste a wizard".
     
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  16. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    It would appear that the Bud Light King thinks differently?:thinking_face:

    "But if something did happen we'd eat the wizard first, right?"

    Cheers!
     
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  17. JimKal

    JimKal Savant (1,213) Jul 31, 2011 North Carolina

    The new SA New England Pale Ale seems, to me, to be a sort of hoppy wheat ale really unlike most other pale ales.
     
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