Anchor Brewing Co. employees are unionizing

Unless I'm missing something, that's not how I read the stories (although, as I said above, I think there's likely a misunderstanding at one or the other of the news sources):

...so, if both are true, that's about 100%.

 

Not in California.....

 

Sign the card and give me part of your paycheck. Then maybe Todd will give you a “free” beer.

 

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That first comment is spot on. I know a few people that work at different shops. They tried to organize, management came in and promised everything. Once the vote went no and the unions moved on , it was back to business as usual.

 

That's how it works....

 

Well, pessimism aside, I hope it works out. Brewing is a hard job with long hours, rotating shifts, and in craft, exhausting labor. There's a reason you don't see a lot of people over 35 in the craft beer industry (in terms of production). The pay doesn't match the effort put forth, and free beer and social credit don't pay a mortgage or put the kids through school. There's going to have to be progress made on this front, otherwise the industry's gonna be a rotating door of 20 somethings with no experience.

 

I noticed no one is going to be upset when the cost of the product goes up, good to see BA folks not upset over costs anymore, progress.

 

Didn't drink it hardly at all before, but I'll fully pass on anything from Anchor from now on. Unions are a relic from the late 19th century through the 1940s. All they do nowadays is drive of the cost of goods.

 

I would take these percentages with a grain of salt. They’re obviously going to vary from beer to beer and brewery to brewery. But for a company now owned by the world’s first trillion-dollar bank (the Mizuho Financial Group — which owns Sapporo — which owns Anchor), I’m willing to bet labor costs are a relatively small percentage of the consumer cost of a beer.

I’d gladly pay an extra six cents per beer to see the workers who make it get good pay and benefits. I’d also be fine with seeing the owners take smaller profits.

 

If the higher costs from the unionized labor end up driving up the cost of the beer, it'll be goodbye Anchor for me. Unions are an anachronism, and I'm not going to subsidize them.

 

On a site where people regularly celebrate beers that cost $25 a four pack or $30 a bomber, people are seriously gonna argue that unions are the reason beer is expensive?

Many of the cheapest beers out there are union shops where workers earn a decent wage.

 

The saying is "Brewing is a young man's game."

 

"The effort is unprecedented in that if the workers' union drive succeeds, it will be one of the first unionized national craft beer companies, as well as the first time that a chapter of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) has directly helped organize a union. The DSA is currently the largest socialist group in the United States in over a century, with over 50,000 members, including elected politicians such as Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D.-NY), Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D.-Mich.)".

Good to see the country embrace Socialism since this move was pushed and organized by the largest socialist group in the USA, lol now I am going to walk from Anchor, won't support socialism in any form and if they are behind this move bye bye.
Cheers

 

If it makes you feel any better (it shouldn't), Democratic Socialists aren't really socialist...yet. Socialism is a somewhat ambiguous term, but generally, they conflate welfare capitalism with a traditional socialist economy (collective ownership, central planning, etc.). They need the wealth created by capitalism--and subsequent revenue from high taxes--to redistribute through various social welfare programs.

 

As opposed to the relic of Red-Baiting (circa 1880s-1980s, approx.) illustrated here in this thread?

You appear to be ignorant of the history of Brewery Workers unionism in the US:

Ditto for the history of Harry Bridges and the union he helped found, the United Longshore & Warehouse Union.

So you're both going to boycott Anchor --- because some of their employees are trying to organize a local at the brewery? There's been no NLRB election, there is no union contract --- at this point there's not even been a hint about what the company's attitude is about unionism. I mean, feel free to boycott which ever brewery's beer you want --- but I think you guys are getting things both mixed up and way ahead of the facts.

 

Of all the reasons for the price of a product to increase, helping to ensure fair compensation for workers seems like it's probably top of the list. Or maybe in a virtual tie with sourcing better quality or more sustainable ingredients.

I was going to list all the things you likely benefit from that are the result of socialist mechanisms within US society, but I have a strange feeling that it won't hit home anyway.

 

I have no issues with them going into the union, I worked for a union shop for 10 years. I am 100% against them embracing anyone/group that pushes for Socialism in our country. I am shocked to be honest that Anchor would associate with that, very sad actually.

 

I am all about fair wages, I think people are overworked and underpaid to be honest. I was just poking fun about the cost side lol, people seem to get really angry with costs so it was more an inside joke.
I am not a fan of socialism, it does not work and it does not take much to see how it destroys, just study history and that is all the education anyone needs.