Why can't I add 0.0% ?

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  1. beer_beer

    beer_beer Pooh-Bah (2,306) Feb 13, 2018 Finland
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    Every time I add a beer with 0.0% ABV just a question mark shows up. Why can't I make the 0.0 stick? The ABV is not "unknown" as the question mark indicates.
     
    #1 beer_beer, Feb 25, 2019
  2. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Looks like you can't put 0.0 as all current NA beers are "?" or a number. You could put "0.01".
     
    #2 bbtkd, Feb 25, 2019
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  3. beer_beer

    beer_beer Pooh-Bah (2,306) Feb 13, 2018 Finland
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    #3 beer_beer, Feb 25, 2019
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  4. Realsambo

    Realsambo Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2016 Texas

    Because according to the dictionary it isn't beer, beer has alcohol.
     
    #4 Realsambo, Feb 25, 2019
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  5. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,276) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    A quick check shows that Maisel's Alkoholfrei is .5% abv so that one at least is wrong.
     
    #5 NeroFiddled, Feb 25, 2019
  6. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Merriam-Webster has two definitions, one with alcohol and one without, though I share your sentiments.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/beer
     
    #6 bbtkd, Feb 25, 2019
  7. beer_beer

    beer_beer Pooh-Bah (2,306) Feb 13, 2018 Finland
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    #7 beer_beer, Feb 25, 2019
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  8. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,276) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    I totally agree, and I'm sure @Todd will get this worked out.
     
    #8 NeroFiddled, Feb 25, 2019
  9. cjgiant

    cjgiant Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,584) Jul 13, 2013 District of Columbia
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    Technically (or tech-wise might be better), the value 0 (or its equivalent 0.0) is likely the default when someone doesn't supply a value and that is probably why it shows up like that. Something would have to be done to differentiate a supplied and a non-supplied 0.
     
    #9 cjgiant, Feb 25, 2019
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  10. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    Exactly and I don't think it has ever been a priority issue to resolve so it is probably sitting somewhere on the back burner.
     
    #10 dbrauneis, Feb 26, 2019
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  11. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    It's simply a bug (we currently don't differentiate between null and zero) that we'll fix ASAP. @Mike is on it. Thanks.
     
    #11 Todd, Feb 26, 2019
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  12. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I’m at a loss as to why this is an important issue.
     
    #12 nc41, Feb 26, 2019
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  13. beergoot

    beergoot Grand High Pooh-Bah (9,310) Oct 11, 2010 Colorado
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    Not important per se, but for the sake of accuracy with non-alcoholic "beers", I suppose it plays a part...
     
    #13 beergoot, Feb 26, 2019
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  14. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    I did report it years ago so I just assumed that it got stuck on a backlog somewhere since it did not get fixed.
     
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  15. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    I don't recall, but it's been this way since the new Add Beer page.

    Anyway. It's a very minor issue and doesn't stop someone from adding a beer. No ABV? Don't add one.
     
    #15 Todd, Feb 26, 2019
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  16. Scottsbeer

    Scottsbeer Initiate (0) Nov 3, 2017 Florida
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    Exactly

    Beer without an ABV is like taking a shower with a raincoat on. Makes no sense.
     
    #16 Scottsbeer, Feb 26, 2019
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  17. beer_beer

    beer_beer Pooh-Bah (2,306) Feb 13, 2018 Finland
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    Some day, some day…:slight_smile:

    The point is being able to immediately recognize a NA beer. Many beers don't contain the information in the name. With "not listed" or "?" it could as well be a 6.5% beer as a 0.0%. But whatever. Being in the Low Alcohol category of course tells a story. But even there you can find stuff with up to 4.8% of alcohol, the highest 50 being at least 2.7%. So the information 0.0% would be significant.

    But I can wait.
     
    #17 beer_beer, Feb 26, 2019
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  18. beer_beer

    beer_beer Pooh-Bah (2,306) Feb 13, 2018 Finland
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    Thanks, Todd!
     
    #18 beer_beer, Feb 26, 2019
  19. TrojanRB

    TrojanRB Grand Pooh-Bah (3,779) Jul 27, 2013 Texas
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    To be fair, Listerine is like 40 proof...
     
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  20. Ceddd99

    Ceddd99 Zealot (609) May 14, 2018 Michigan
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    It would be an important issue for Muslims who only drink 0.0 beers. Even .5% is prohibited in some Muslim countries.
     
    #20 Ceddd99, Feb 26, 2019
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