Risk threshold for alcohol consumption: 100 grams per week

A friend of mine heard a state trooper say "feel free to drive as fast as you can afford". As far as drinking alcohol, it comes down to risk. Will something else kill you before alcohol, and if not can you find something else to blame it on at least?

 

"May" being the key word.

 

I'm starting to enjoy these threads about research into the effects of alcohol. It's pretty much the same every time. Any positive affects of alcohol are lost as consumption gets "high." Shocking. But reading the replies to these studies on a beer site is fun.

 

Bravo--someone who read it.

If people have any real interest (and the dismissive and glib responses to this article suggest many do not) click on the PDF and look at figure 1. The article shows a somewhat flat response to alcohol for ALL CAUSE MORTALITY from 0>200g/wk and that really goes up after 200g/wk and much higher at >300g/wk. Cardiovascular disease did go up but not as much and was lower at the 100g/wk as many studies have suggested.

By the study's methodology the 6UK pints /wk was set at 100g/wk so >/=12 pints was clearly in the wrong direction and 400g/wk>>i.e. 24/wk clearly associated with an even significantly higher risk for all cause mortality. If folks are trying to justify 24 drinks a week, well I am not sure what to say.

This study seems to confirm and not refute what majority of studies have previously concluded. The methods here are sound for such a large a group and the conclusions reasonable.

Or folks can just assert whatever they want to and believe it. We certainly have some precedent/president for that.

 

All about choice but simple fact is drinking a crapload is not good for you and drinking in moderation isnt as bad. The thing to remember is the liver is the filter of toxins for the body and ethyl alcohol happens to be a toxin. Just like anything else with over use it will wear out prematurely - Im probably on that list. That being said Im not taking sides. Ive lost several people in my family suddenly and tragically. Is extending my life by 4 or 5 years worth cutting out the things I enjoy? When youve been affected by tragedy it sometimes changes your outlook. Be smart. My bro got killed with beer in his belly after a very successful day and night- he was not driving and had taken the proper precautions. I believe he was happy.

 

Each of us have our own reasons for drinking and for drinking craft beers.
Each of us rationalize the balance of health versus pleasure of drinking or we would not be members of this site.

 

No criticism intended, but I'm somewhat skeptical about the conclusions drawn by medical studies. It seems they often tend to contradict each other, given enough time. Coffee is an example. I suspect the sheer complexity of doing medical studies is an underlying reason. I don't necessarily discount them nor do I wholeheartedly embrace them.

 

I don't drink to live longer, I drink so people that piss me off live longer... just saying

Additionally, while this looks like a scholarly article (sp?), I about developed a brain anurysm attempting to read it. As some before me have said heavy drinking= no bueno. Biological feed back probably works into your 20s. After that timeframe, then it is up to each individual to study & ponder these articles

 

Time for the red ‘Risk’ banner on my account

 

Coffee is good for us this week. Science says it actually helps us live longer. Stay tuned when next week science decides coffee leads to early death, and any amount of alcohol is dangerous.

 

You forgot they also have a pill to fix it but only 35 side effects lol.

Cheers

 

I just don't care

 

I'll take a double ipa and some chronic over pain meds any day of the week! The same people telling us drinking in moderation is bad, also hand people 800 oxy pills for a bone bruise and say "go crazy!"

 

Yeah, so the thing that a lot of people learn between 23 and [older] is that unhealthy living isn't a thing where you get to have all the fun and just die at 75 rather than 80. No, you fuck up your body by middle age, and then you live in horrible discomfort for a certain number of decades, and THEN you die five years earlier than you otherwise might have.

Diabetes does not improve your quality of life, no matter how much fun you had acquiring it.

 

For me, I think the benefits (lower stress, socialization with others, laughing, etc...) outweighs the negatives from me drinking three days a week.

Not to mention the off-set I try to make with calories in terms of diet (more veggies, less meat, no empty calories, etc...). So we shall see what decides to take me in the future... lol

 

Drinking beer does not mean you will get type 2 diabetes. There are numerous factors that contribute to the disease and yes if can worsen it but its not the cause for it. Many things contribute to folks getting the disease. I have drank for 25 years, my fasting sugar level is around 68-70.

 

Exactly, food plays a bigger role in our ultimate health as does exercise. Many people sit all day, don't ever exercise, eat out 3-5 times a week, etc. That does far more damage than 1-3 beers every other day. I drink beer because I love it. I also workout 4-5 days a week and eat lots of good stuff. I maybe eat out 1x a week and avoid all soda and snacks. Seems to work just fine.

 

Not sure if this has been mentioned already, but even moderation needs to be done in moderation.

 

I will disregard this study. I am fairly certain that my COPD will get me long before alcohol does. So I am going to enjoy the rest of the journey !

 

I’m telling ya I gota bad feeling on this one!!!