Are breweries producing too many beers?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Justonemore91, Mar 13, 2019.

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  1. LarryV

    LarryV Grand Pooh-Bah (5,408) Jun 13, 2001 Massachusetts
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    But if the beers are constantly new releases, you don't know if they suck until you've already put up the cash, assuming that you mean just don't buy it.

    I usually don't buy this stuff because it's too expensive for one, and I tend to view it as a gamble, it might be good, it might suck. But if I stick with a known good product then I haven't wasted $16 or more on some nonsense that sucks.

    If a brewery has no flagship brews and is just knocking out one-offs every other day, I view it as a red flag and stay away, but that's just me.
     
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  2. insearchofhops

    insearchofhops Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2014 Massachusetts

    Trillium is guilty of this. Quality seems to be on the decline too IMO
     
  3. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    My distant relative Henry Patrick said "give me librium or give me death". No, no, he really said that about unicorn farts relative to Blue Ribbon.
     
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  4. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Makes me wonder if they're failing to put enough thought into their recipes and trying them all, good or bad, on their customers. If that's what's going on, they'll lose customers.
     
  5. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Well, peanut butter and cherry are two things I never put together outside of beer. Put them in beer as a pair and I’m not paying $1 a bottle. Cherry stout I’m in. Peanut butter any beer, I’m out.

    I guess making so many beers works for breweries or why would it keep happening?

    I would like to see breweries dial in core beers and then go as crazy as they want. I want to buy your core regularly, I’m not going to be your lab rat each week. Once in a bit, sure.

    Enjoy
     
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  6. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,276) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    I mean JUST DON'T BUY IT !!!

    There are many breweries that I've tried several different beers from and they've let me down time and again - I just won't go back, it's as easy as that. "Oh but they've got a special", well F them, they failed before and I'm not falling for it.

    On the up side, there are some breweries that I once thought were piss-poor and they've improved. Are ANY of those up to the quality of our best national beers? No, but I am saying improvement is possible, but I'll bide my time before I jump in and try them again.

    Let's not call it "once bitten, twice shy", let's call it "You F'd me over four or five times so F you, you F'n F!" (That really doesn't work done PC, does it?). How about "Say hello to my little friend, spending money at your competition"?

    How did the adage go that was so bandied around when craft brew was just coming up and the big brewers were still in charge, "Life is too short to drink shitty beers?" Well it's back again.
     
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  7. DVMin98

    DVMin98 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,125) Nov 1, 2010 North Carolina
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    I like how one of my local breweries do it. They have their core releases. Then they have their seasonal releases. Then they will do a new beer like once a month and then they do a pilot batch (one keg) every two weeks. Seems about right. You go Triple C!
     
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  8. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    I've got bad news for you ...

    The thing is the "new beer each week" model is working and taps into a large segment of people who want something new each week. I see your complaint, especially in cases where the beers aren't very good quality-wise, but I have to think the model in general is here to stay.
     
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  9. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    The craft market is notoriously fickle, and when you throw this kind of fickle behavior towards new money consumers. You create a death spiral of unrealizable expectations, and breweries are stuck making stuff they can never slow down enough to really get a handle on. Limited tank real estate in a market with a high cost per square foot for lease space certainly compounds this.
     
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  10. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Pooh-Bah (2,181) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Good brewers don’t need to brew the same beer over and over to produce a consistently good product. Variety and innovation is good for everybody and feeds a growing industry. If you sense quality problems - it’s more likely that the brewer doesn’t have the training and/or enough experience yet. Cheers.
     
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  11. oldbean

    oldbean Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2005 Massachusetts

    Teetering on the brink of an epiphany...
     
  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Are you buying these "3 different new beers"? If so, they I would be willing to guess you know the 'answer' here.

    Cheers!
     
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  13. Zorro

    Zorro Grand Pooh-Bah (3,258) Dec 25, 2003 California
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    ALL IPAs; and nothing else at all!
     
  14. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    That's over the top of ridiculous if that's the total beer menu. It's ridiculous if it's just the new beers being brewed.
     
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  15. EmperorBatman

    EmperorBatman Zealot (741) Mar 16, 2018 Tennessee

    A brewery near my hometown started doing this. They always had a hop-focused selection, but recently it’s all been IPA variants and then maybe a stout or porter, or two. For that reason I quit going there.
     
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  16. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    It seems like a bombardment, not sure how they make money like this. I thought the Stone premise of the Enjoy By to be simple but really genius. Can’t remember the last time I saw this on the shelf, but I’m getting tired of the codes. Such a simple idea that seems to hve gone the way of the dodos with all the new NEIPAS.
     
  17. Milktoast75

    Milktoast75 Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2012 Wisconsin

    Gimmicky new beer— no sales = no gimmicky new beer.
     
  18. Optifron

    Optifron Initiate (0) Aug 17, 2012 Minnesota

    I fall into this “some people” mindset. When I try a new brewery, I always try the basic, classic style flagships. If those aren’t solid, no return trip to that brewery. And in my experience, the ones that don’t have a core set of flagships have been not good 100% of the time, but I don’t find a ton of those.

    The great thing about so much choice today is that I can choose to spend money at the breweries that invest in making a batch enough times for it to be excellent.

    And for the record, yes, I know a great brewery can make repeatedly make great one-offs, but I find the percentage of new breweries able to do it to be close to zero. Not worth wasting money on the low chances for me. Call me an old geezer of a millennial, but I’m happiest with some reliable beverages that taste like a solid, balanced beer (as opposed to pastries, milkshakes, and whatever else - I know they’re beer, but you know what I mean).
     
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  19. honkey

    honkey Maven (1,350) Aug 28, 2010 Arizona
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    Obviously there are brewers that will put out beers that they know are not as intended, but those are simply shady breweries engaging in poor business practices. Most frequently in that case, the brewer just can’t afford to dump beer.

    However, “not ready” and “not what you advertised” are frequently just opinions. In your example of a peanut butter beer that doesn’t taste like it had enough, I wouldn’t expect a strong peanut butter flavor unless the brewery used extracts. If they don’t advertise the use of extracts and it tastes strong, I’d assume that they were being misleading. I’ve had to contract brew for a couple breweries that wanted peanut butter beers... in order to get a substantial flavor, we had to use artificial flavorings.
     
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  20. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,744) Apr 21, 2014 Canada (ON)
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    Be careful what you wish for. Up here that is exactly what happens for all beer not sold directly at the brewery. If you enjoy IPAs with a healthy 4-5 months of aging in warehouses without climate control, I recommend a visit to Ontario.
     
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