First home brew - please help!

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  1. Car_Jam_Session

    Car_Jam_Session Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2012

    Hey all. Looking for some feedback regarding my plan for the first home brew. It's from a kit, but I am going to tweak it a bit.

    Here are the ingredients: 1lb crushed caramel malt, 3.3 lb Sparkling Amber extract (syrup), 2 lb 8 oz. spray - dried amber malt extract, 5 oz, priming sugar, 1/2 willamette aroma hops, 1 and 1/4 oz bittering hops, 11g (.388 oz) Nottingham ale yeast.

    I also supplemented the kit with 1 lb Briess dried malt extract and 1 oz Citra hop pellets.

    Here is the plan: Add approx 2.5 gallons of spring water to my 4 quart boiling pot and bring up to 160 degrees F, add crushed malt in grain bag and cook for 20 minutes. Pull bag (perhaps pour some hot water through it to make sure all the good stuff is in the mix?).

    Bring water (with the steeped grains) to a "rolling" boil and add all the dried and liquid malt. Boil for 20 min. My instructions indicate that I should immediately add the hops, but I was thinking boil without for 20 min. Sound OK? Any harm in doing this?

    I've read a lot of posts about adding sugar at this point. The only sugar I have in the kit is priming sugar (for use before bottling), am I missing something? Obviously I understand that the malts are essentially fermentable sugar, but should I be adding something else?

    I will then add the bittering hops with 60 minutes left to boil, the citra hops with 20 min left to boil and the aroma hops with 5 min left to boil. I guess that this will put me at about 100 minutes of total "cooking" time....

    I'll then cool the wort in my sink and will attempt to bring it down to approx 100F. I will strain it and pour it into my initial fermenter and add water to bring the mix up to 5 gallons. I'll let the initial fermentation run for about 5 days, then will transfer (siphon) to a secondary fermenter.

    The brew will stay in the secondary for approx 2 weeks, then I transfer it again to the bottling bucket, add the priming sugar, bottle, and let sit for 2 more weeks.

    Sound ok? I can't wait to hear the recommendation and suggestions. Thanks in advance! I'm excited to be part of the discussion. Cheers!
     
  2. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    How close does your plan hew to the instructions that come with the kit?

    First timers are well advised to keep both hands on the wheel.
     
  3. CASK1

    CASK1 Pundit (951) Jan 7, 2010 Florida

    Welcome to the hobby! You seem to have your plan well under control. I would not add any additional sugar - your recipe will be fine. The 20 minute pre-hop boil will not really gain you anything, but shouldn't really hurt either, except perhaps to darken the color. Many here will say to skip the secondary, and just leave the beer in primary until it's done. This is personal choice - I use secondaries most of the time. Either way, don't use the calendar to decide when to rack or bottle. Check gravity if possible and wait until there is no change for three days before bottling.

    Happy brewing!
     
  4. jerschwab

    jerschwab Initiate (0) May 31, 2010 Canada (BC)

    I'm assuming you mean 4 gallon boiling pot, not 4 quart! Also don't forget to clean and sanitize everything!
     
  5. Car_Jam_Session

    Car_Jam_Session Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2012

    You are right, I didn't mean 4 quarts. It is 16. My bad. I intend to be quite meticulous with the sanitizing....
     
  6. Car_Jam_Session

    Car_Jam_Session Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2012

    Haha... I'm sticking pretty close to the instructions. Just looking to make sure that I am not doing anything completely unconventional.
     
  7. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    Why?
     
  8. Car_Jam_Session

    Car_Jam_Session Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2012

    I have brewed once with someone who claimed to have some knowledge of the process and this is what I recall him doing (it should be noted, I was a few He'Brew RIPA's in at this point, memory may be a bit fuzzy).... Is it a waste of time?
     
  9. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Generally yes. Unless you have a specific goal in mind.
     
  10. tngolfer

    tngolfer Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2012 Tennessee

    As a noobie to the hobby as well, I would follow the directions as closely as you can. It will be much easier to diagnose a problem should one develop. Also, after you follow the directions and you know how the beer will taste/smell/bitter/etc. you can adjust the recipe next time and see how changing the mix affects the attributes of the beer.

    It may just be how you typed it but you will get a more uniform mix if you add the priming sugar solution to the bottling bucket before you transfer from secondary to the bottling bucket.

    Good luck!
     
  11. JHamm

    JHamm Initiate (0) Dec 8, 2009 Delaware

    May want to make sure to bring the wort temperature down below 100 before pitching your yeast. I typically shoot to get it as close to 70 as possible.
     
  12. LLVNJ

    LLVNJ Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2008 New Jersey

    The nice thing about brew day is you don't really have to get crazy with sanitizing because of the boiling. Just make sure your funnel and carboy are sanitized and I always use a piece of sanitized foil over carboy (unless using a bucket) for the first couple days then replace with a sanitized air lock just in case fermentation goes crazy it prevents a carboy bomb at 2a in the morning like my first batch did.
     
  13. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    I would also add don't worry about racking to a secondary carboy. Most instructions will tell you to do that but you don't need to unless you plan on dry hopping or something. You'll just increase the chance of infection or oxidation, but if you really want to it and you're careful about it you'll be fine, don't worry about it. The extra boil is not necessary unless you're looking for more caramelization. Also make sure you check your gravity before bottling to make sure the beer is done fermenting, don't base this assumption on airlock activity or time. Definitely follow the instructions for your first batch so you can get an idea of the process. Once you have the process down its easier to start doing other things to make the beer interesting. At the end of the day don't stress about what you're doing, relax don't worry have a homebrew.
     
  14. clearbrew

    clearbrew Initiate (0) Nov 3, 2009 Louisiana

    Forget about the extra 20 min. On your first batch, when the wort begins to boil, you need to watch out for a boil over. Adding the hops will help a bit at this point, but keep your hand on the gas valve until you get a nice boil and the foam layer has broken. When you add the malt, kill the flame until the malt is completely dissolved. With a 4 gal pot, if you have three gal of water in before you add the malt, you are going to be fairly close to the top after you add malt. So just watch out for boil overs.
    I don't recommend deviating from the original recipe on your first batch. Learn the basics, learn your equipment and brew a great beer that you'll be proud of. If your first tastes like shit, how excited are you going to be about your second?
     
  15. geocool

    geocool Savant (1,233) Jun 21, 2006 Massachusetts

    Tips:
    1) Since you are adding more water to the fermenter to bring the total up to 5 gallons, you may as well make sure that this extra water is as cold as possible. Put it in the fridge the night before. Try to get the wort temperature to under 70F before pitching your yeast. I'd even rather wait overnight for this to happen if necessary, despite the increased risk of contamination.

    2) Yes, you can skip the secondary, just transfer directly from primary into the bottling bucket when fermentation is complete (meaning that the gravity has not changed after taking readings a few days apart). At this time, you boil the 5oz of priming sugar in a little water and add this to the bottling bucket too.

    3) You can add 1/2 lb of granulated sugar to the boil if you want to lighten the body (I think many extract brews taste a little thick), but it's not necessary. Your beer, your choice.
     
  16. Car_Jam_Session

    Car_Jam_Session Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2012

    Wow. Some great information here. Thanks so much to everyone that has posted their thoughts/ suggestions. Can wait to get cookin'!
     
  17. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    Simply adding sugar to an already existing extract recipe will not lighten the body, in order to lighten the body you need to replace an equal gravity of extract with sugar.
     
  18. jokelahoma

    jokelahoma Savant (1,162) May 9, 2004 Missouri

    I generally wait until hot break occurs (which is less than 20 minutes), but that's mainly so I don't end up with a lot of hop pellets stuck to the side of my kettle, carried there by the foam that occurs before break. By waiting until the foam falls and break occurs, my hops stay in the wort.

    But that's just me. It's certainly not necessary.
     
  19. jmich24

    jmich24 Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2010 Michigan

    I use a 1/2 of a campden tablet to treat Chloromines that are found in my tap water. My 1st two batches had a off flavors without it. Quick tip I wish I would have had as a beginner. Here are a few more tips that I wish I known before my 1st batch. Others have touched on a few.

    1. Cool wort as quickly as possible to 70 degrees or below before pitching yeast. I prefer 62-65. Shake bucket to oxygenate wort, then pitch yeast after pitching yeast do everything to keep oxygen away.
    2. Keep ambient (room) temp in the mid 60's. Fermentation can increase temps as much as 3-4 degrees. (High fermentation temps can cause off flavors)
    3. Dont use a secondary, can cause more harm than good. (infection, oxygenation)
    4. A 60 min boil is plenty long enough for your recipe. When adding hops/extract watch for boil over) adjust flame or have hot pads ready to take pot off flame)
    5. Add your syrup add the beginning of the boil with flame off to prevent scorching. Stir in the remaining DME with 15 min left. (This is highly recommended for extract brewers, adding all extract at beginning will cook and darken color, possibly add off flavors)
    6. Get a bottling wand to connect to bucket, putting beer in bottle from spout will get tons of oxygen in beer(bad).
    7. Sanitize everything! Including bottling bucket, all gaskets (bucket lid, bucket spout, air locks, bottles, wand, ect.
    8. Takes notes on recipe and process to make it easier to remake recipe, find issues, pinpoint what worked well, ect
    9. Dont freak out if fermentation doesn’t start immediately :wink:

    You dont want to get to complicated with your first batch but you also want it to taste good. Citra can be very fruity and tropical. For me I would take the "flavor and aroma" hops, mix them together and add half at 10 min and half as soon as you turn of the flame(known as 0min, knockout or flameout) it gives a lot of aroma without the extra step of dry hopping.( wait to get one of two under your belt before dryhopping, IMO). I would also get a fresh pack of us-05 to use as yeast (personal preference).

    I am assuming you are shooting for a Pale Ale with you ingrediants. IMO , leave out the Caramel malt. Your amber extract will already have carmel malt in it. Save it for your second batch to use with light or extra light dme. Keep it simple for your first batch.

    Easy Extract Recipe/Process

    Bring water to a boil
    Turn off flame- add extract syrup, stir well
    Bring back to boil- at this point your 60 min boil starts.
    Add 1st bittering charge (60min)
    Wait 45 min
    Add all dme (15 min)
    10 min 1 oz hops (your choice)
    0 min add 1 oz hops (your choice)
    Cool to 65 or so pitch yeast (your choice)

    Enjoy your new hobby, read a lot, also videos can be very hepful, Thebrewingnetwork.com, Brewing TV @ Northernbrewer.com, howtobrew.com, youtube, ect.

    Good Luck.







     
  20. Car_Jam_Session

    Car_Jam_Session Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2012

    These responses, in my opinion, are what "the internets" are all about. Please, keep the information coming....

    I think that I've been convinced to go w/ just one fermentation container.

    I could use more info about the SG -- the guy that I bought the kit from suggested that I look at the hundredths and thousands place of my initial reading, divide by 4, then let the brew sit for 2 weeks once that mark has been reached. For example, an initial reading of 1.060 dividing the specified decimals by 4 puts me at 1.015. So this would be my indicator that I have two weeks to go....

    I'll admit that I'm a bit confused by this - am I supposed to take an initial hydrometer reading when I get the cooled wort and cold water into the bucket, then take a reading a couple times a day for the first few days? I have a "bucket" fermenter, so taking the reading will involve opening the bucket lid.. isn't this a bad idea (risk infection, disturb the fermenting process, etc)?

    Thanks!
     
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