Grandpa Brews

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  1. thesherrybomber

    thesherrybomber Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2017 California

    How so?
     
  2. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    With all this talk of East Coast, Canadian and Midwest beers, I feel I need to "represent" from the West Coast.

    Grew up in the south bay area, and still remember my father ordering beer at Candlestick Park, watching Mays, Marichal and McCovey back in the day. My father wasn't a big beer drinker, but he felt very strongly that one couldn't properly watch a game of baseball without a Polish sausage dog sandwich (with kraut and guldens mustard of course), and then a bottle or two of cold beer. Back in those days, the choices were slim at the park, but I remember seeing bottles of Falstaff and Burgermeister purveyed by the beer guys, hawking their wares through the crowd ("Beer here. Ice cold bottle of beer. Ice cold Burgy here. Get your ice cold beer here."). For some reason Falstaff was a bit more expensive than Burgy (Falstaff was labeled as a premium beer, while Burgy was touted as a Western beer), though I really couldn't taste much difference between the two (my dad would always let me have a taste of his beer - a tradition I relished).

    I assume they must have been a bit more expensive at the local store, as my dad would typically buy whatever was least expensive (Coors, Miller and Budweiser never entered our door, back in the day). As a result, the few times we might have beer at home, it was always hamms, oly and rainier ale that graced our table (served in barrel shaped copper mugs that us kids thought were oh so cool and adult).
     
  3. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,276) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    I would imagine, yes. Cluster is still grown and therefore someone has to be using it - I doubt it's "craft brewers". As to any specific beers using Cluster I haven't got a clue, but my guess is that it's some of those throwback "grandpa" beers.

    On that note, or as an aside, is someone still brewing Rainier? I haven't had that in 'literally' decades. Oh, and another one, "Old Style" - or even "Pig's Eye"! Wow, a lot of great memories coming back based on this thread.
     
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  4. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    I was a beer and wine wholesaler for decades. I had a great affinity for beer going back to my Dad;s Lowenbrau and and an early journey to Europe. We ushered in the new era of beer in the early 00s when North Carolina raised the beer alcohol limit above 6%--Pop the Cap. We lobbied hard. The rest is history still growing.
     
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  5. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    It's still available out here. It's extremely cheap, and so tall boys compete with the likes of PBR and Montucky. Not sure who's making it now, but figure @jesskidden can probably weigh in on that. :sunglasses:

    (corporate headquarters are in S. Cal I believe, but I expect the beer is made under contract all over the place).
     
  6. SmashAdams

    SmashAdams Savant (1,127) Feb 3, 2015 New Jersey

    I've always wanted to find some Olympia because Clint Eastwood always drinks it in his movies.

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  7. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    Rainier is a Pabst brand.

    According to their website, they have more than just the AAL in the Rainier brand family. (They even have an IPA! - sort of...)
     
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  8. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Yeah, I think the session IPA you're referring to was released fairly recently. I have never seen a can of it anywhere! Not that I go looking for Rainier products, but I see the original beer with the big red R on the label all over the place.
     
  9. miniditka77

    miniditka77 Pundit (953) May 21, 2015 Illinois
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    While I haven't been up there in a few years, northern Minnesota was always a goldmine for "grandpa" type beers. In one liquor store, you could get: Schmidt's, Schaefer, Olympia, Hamm's, Stroh's, PBR, Old Style, Grain Belt, Schlitz, and Old Milwaukee, maybe others I'm forgetting too (Meister Brau possibly?). We sampled them all over the years, and liked Hamm's and Stroh's the best.
     
  10. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Those are two beer brand names that haven't come up yet in this thread. I've heard of the Burgermeister name but never came across it way back when. Falstaff was the beer that Dizzy Dean and Pee Wee Reese pitched (no pun intended) every weekend on TV as announcers on the CBS(?) Baseball Game of the Week.
     
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  11. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    I'm not positive of this, but I think it (Burgy) was largely a West Coast beer (and maybe mostly just the N. California). If you lived in the bay area, you would never have guessed that it was a pretty small market beer. It seemed like burgy commercials were on TV non-stop. Even back in the day, when no one really seemed to have very discerning taste when it came to beer, most folks seemed to think it was pretty crappy (even though it sounded so German... how could it not be good?!?!).
     
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  12. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    There is or was? I thought all but National Premium were long dead (and NP was resurrected a few years back, but not much heard from them since).

    The most respected Rainier brand from the era of the OP was Rainier Ale, which Heileman and then Pabst dumbed down, and the latter eventually killed a few years ago (@Bitterbill ?)

    Lord Chesterfield Ale is still brewed by Yuengling, though apparently the distribution region is much smaller than for their flagship Tradition Lager and a few other brands. (One NJ distributor rep told me it would be dropped eventually a few months back, another one said he didn't think so - just the other day.) But if you're looking for a US golden ale brewed with Cluster - I'd think you're out of luck.
    Yeah, Falstaff was a huge "Top 10" national brewing company from the late 40s into the early 70s, and they eventually owned two different breweries in California (San Jose and San Francisco) and were the SF Giants sponsor right after they hit town - don't know how long that lasted.

    Burgermeister (aka "Burgie") was a big local San Francisco brand and was the one of the largest brewers based in California in the late '50s (around 1M bbl), second only to Lucky/General. The brand later went through a few large brewers' hands (Schlitz > Hamms > Pabst, IIRC) before the it disappeared. When Olympia bought Hamm in the mid-70s, there was a brief hope that their SF brewery would stay open and brew just Burgie, but they eventually sold the label to Pabst (which had a brewery in LA).



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  13. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    Rainier Ale must still be around as there are lots of recent ratings on Untappd, less so for BA.
    And I never thought that it was dumbed down. More like amped up and that was a death blow for my love of that Ale.
     
  14. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Yeah, that's what I thought but haven't been up around central NYS for quite a while, so thought it was possible. When I lived in the "Southern Tier" region in the mid-80s Matt Premium was huge, maybe the biggest draft choice after macros AB, Miller or Labatt. I was pretty surprised 'cause I thought I was moving into "Genesee Country".

    I'd been a fan of Matt's since an earlier period of living up along the NYS/Ontario border in the late 1970s and most every bar up there had Matt's in brown deposit bottles - the throw-aways were clear, so I avoided them. They even had clear 7 oz. long neck deposit bottles, and bar often used them as salt and pepper shakers (some company made plastic snap-on cap with holes for just that purpose).

    Apparently when Matt Premium was first released in the late 1940s, it was an all-malt beer - pretty unusual for the time. I've wondered in the new "Haus Lager" is based on that since they do make reference to an older brewery recipe.
     
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  15. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Damn, you know what I mean. You a testy devil, aren't' you?
     
  16. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    "Testy", no (well, sometimes)...:grin: I just thought by writing "once again" you were implying that Pabst or someone else was resurrecting even more old Schlitz and Carling-National brands.

    Would especially like to revisit the US-brewed Red Cap Ale again. (Used to hang out in this tiny little cellar bar near a friend's house that sold only [well, as i remember it] Budweiser or Red Cap Ale, both in long neck deposit bottles, stuffed into two bar sinks full of ice).

    And what did happen to that National Premium reboot? (Gone the way of most revived brands, I guess?) Ah, the website's still up - NATIONAL PREMIUM
     
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  17. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Loved the chugs mugs, the only one left is Mickeys.
     
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  18. nw2571

    nw2571 Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2017 Indiana

    I believe Champagne Velvet qualifies, given its history. Upland has remade it from supposedly the original recipe. I drank this when I could find it on tap in Terre Haute during my college days. The Upland Version tastes like I remember the reboot from Terre Haute Brewing Co back then.

    Should be available in MI, OP.

    https://growlermag.com/glass-from-the-past-champagne-velvet/
     
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  19. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    More of a grenade bottle but the opening is chug. Thank goodness the pull tab went away.
     
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  20. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Someone who knows a nostalgic sucker should bring it back, I’m their market.
     
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