Pilsner Hate

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  1. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Yuengling Golden Pls is far from my favorite Pils, I’d call it a miss on the style, but it’s certainly not offensive.
     
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  2. deleted_user_1007501

    deleted_user_1007501 Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2015

    I would always butt heads with some of my other craft buddies who vehemently opposed macro and AALs. I understand everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but damn, get a f*ckin grip and relax haha. It’s just beer.
     
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  3. ESHBG

    ESHBG Pooh-Bah (2,099) Jul 30, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    It's got some odd flavors going on for me (sulfate-ish mixed with a little banana?) and after 12 of them (6 when it first came out and another 6 recently) I just can't get into it at all.
     
  4. thesherrybomber

    thesherrybomber Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2017 California
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    Serious?
     
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  5. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Yea, AALs are as inoffensive and are lacking in aggression as any beer can possibly be, beers I like better, you bet. But you can’t seriously call AALs shitty beers, well maybe some attempts at Malt Liquors the exception.
     
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  6. thesherrybomber

    thesherrybomber Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2017 California
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    Eh, there's a reason American beer was the laughing stock of the world for a long time, so I'm not sure everyone who doesn't prefer them is by default someone who dislikes beer (some would argue they barely qualify as beer).

    They take a bit of specialty to make, sure, and if these giant conglomerates wanted to, I'm sure they can churn out some fantastic brews. They have the know how, certainly, but unfortunately put profits before all else.
     
  7. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    You do realize those AAL brewers wouldn't be making money on their beers if they weren't selling beers that some people want to drink? Those brewers wouldn't have been in business so long as they have if they had to force people to drink their beers.
     
  8. thesherrybomber

    thesherrybomber Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2017 California
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    I'm told they were of a higher quality decades ago, but that was way before my time.
     
  9. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I’d love to own the profits from Bud Light alone, I could ha retired a decade ago. Something for everyone and most cut their teeth on these kinda beers.
     
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  10. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Well there's no data or indication of brewing quality showing they are of lower quality now, just that the level of hopping has decreased over the years. That actually happened because of customer preferences.
     
  11. thesherrybomber

    thesherrybomber Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2017 California
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    Strange... I wonder what caused a shift in preferences... would Ballantine and others still be around today?
     
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  12. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,708) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    I think so, too. You tell a lot of craft beer fans about a Pilsner and they'll cringe and bring up Miller Lite. But I imagine they would have a quite a different reaction to a fresh Prima Pils or Pivo poured properly into a flute glass around 45 degrees on a hot day. It's incredibly just how refreshing and tasty a fresh hoppy pilsner can be.
     
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  13. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    It’s off imo, but I couldn’t describe it, I just don’t buy this guy, there’s better Pils out there.
     
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  14. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Well, it didn't hurt that during the cold war years lots of GIs were stationed in the UK and Europe and some of them brought back with them a taste for more flavorful beers.
     
  15. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,088) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Kind of ironic that the two groups who drink your Pilsners are real beer lovers and Miller drinkers.
     
  16. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Your question triggers another thought. I've an older friend who is also a home baker. He tells me that he first got started baking his own bread about 35-40 years ago when all the breads in the supermarket were basically white and doughy (he calls them "wall paper paste.") These days he has cut back on the frequency with which he bakes simply because in most of the grocery stores where he shops there are artisanal breads available that are freshly baked, some of them even baked in the store itself.

    Popular tastes in general have changed over the last 30 years.
     
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  17. Beer_Stan

    Beer_Stan Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2014 California
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    As far as loathe, I feel like Macro or over-saturation of certain brands of beer out there (Boston lager, heineken, and the like) that should NOT be representative of the style and give off the impression that its going to be thin, skunky and nearly flavorless for some. but thats some people's first experience with it and they get turned off from trying more quality versions like Trumer, Urquell and hundreds of others. On the other hand I feel it represents "American" beer in that you've got those salt of the earth worker types and their friends, wives, etc, who love themselves what they feel to be beer that represents some form of americana or nostalgia for a time then "beer was beer." You know they types all those anti-craft commercials are geared towards. Just my four cents
     
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  18. hillind

    hillind Pundit (971) Apr 24, 2010 Pennsylvania

    I’m from the op’s neck of the woods, and we do have a wide variety of pils (all the SEPA heavy hitters) but finding them fresh can be a chore as there are many shops where it seems like IPAs and big stouts are the only product that moves. That’s why I was happy to find SN Summerfest this week.
     
  19. thesherrybomber

    thesherrybomber Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2017 California
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    I thought Corona was pretty disgusting the first time I tried it, and didn't help that a friend said "If you don't like this, you DEFINITELY won't like the stronger/darker ones" (same guy who cried, "Blegh! This beer tastes like coffee!" after trying a brown ale). That's probably why I avoided all beer for the longest time.

    Maybe its a taste thing? One guy drinking a Coors said, "Oh, I can't do ales". No idea how much of that is based on perception. Its a lot harder to hide flaws in a lager, so maybe they see it as more a means to an end. Something to "man up and take" to get drunk.
     
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  20. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Another thing to consider here is freshness. Things to stay away from: beers in clear or green bottles exposed to light or heat, even if that sitting at room temp on a palate. Old ass beers in general. Any beer can be ruined by any of the above, beers need to be properly contained, fresh and kept cool and dark.
     
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