Hill Farmstead (2019)

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  1. jhavs

    jhavs Grand Pooh-Bah (3,587) Apr 16, 2015 New York
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    That makes sense. The weather was a bit rough on Wednesday, probably kept some people away.
     
  2. wasatchback

    wasatchback Pooh-Bah (1,574) Jan 12, 2014 Tajikistan
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    Bottle conditioned for 2 years but served “sans carbonation”?? Interesting
     
  3. oldbean

    oldbean Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2005 Massachusetts

    It doesn't actually say it's bottled conditioned... definitely interesting either way.
     
  4. bla211

    bla211 Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2015 Colorado

    "blended and packaged in 750ml bottles at Hill Farmstead on April 19, 2017"
     
  5. ISpendTooMuchOnBeer

    ISpendTooMuchOnBeer Zealot (529) Oct 29, 2015 Illinois

    I think what oldbean means is that bottle conditioning technically means introducing a certain agent at the time of bottling so that natural carbonation forms and bottles are often let to sit and “condition” for periods of time to allow the carbonation to settle to the appropriate level whilst also allowing the flavors to develop overtime. Since this bottle is still, there was no carb agent introduced and thus technically no bottle conditioning.
     
  6. bla211

    bla211 Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2015 Colorado

    "Introducing an agent" is not necessary for bottle conditioning. Spontaneously fermented beers often times do not add priming sugar or yeast at bottling and they will naturally carbonate over time. You can totally condition a beer that never referments in the bottle and therefore is still (see Cantillon Loerik). Just because it doesnt carbonate doesn't mean that things like Brett and Lacto/Pedio, etc aren't doing work and devloping mature flavors as it conditions.
     
  7. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    But...doesn't everything fart?
     
  8. oldbean

    oldbean Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2005 Massachusetts

    I have always understood the term "bottle conditioning" as referring to a method of carbonating beer, specifically. I know there's potentially other microbial stuff happening that doesn't result in carbonation, but that typically seems to fall under the umbrella of "aging".
     
  9. bla211

    bla211 Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2015 Colorado

    Yea that’s probably true. For me, the benefits of conditioning are more flavor related that carbonation even though carbonation is usually happening at the same time. Carbonation happens in the first 3 weeks or so typically, where an extended conditioning period results in flavor maturation.
     
  10. oldbean

    oldbean Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2005 Massachusetts

    Bottle conditioning is also kind of weird in that it clearly makes a different in the final product, and there's also wildly different styles of bottle conditioning, but in an era of beer defined by wild experimentation on (nearly) all fronts, you don't see it emphasized or discussed that much. For instance, a lot of the saisons from Enlightenment I loved so much were bottle conditioned with brett, and how many people have even heard of that?
     
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  11. Schuee

    Schuee Initiate (0) May 26, 2017 Connecticut

    Veering from the recent discussions but given its mud season in VT, how bad are the roads into the place? Thinking of going this weekend but more rain is predicted on what probably is a mess of a road will not help. Left snow tires on the car but its front wheel drive not awd
     
  12. wasatchback

    wasatchback Pooh-Bah (1,574) Jan 12, 2014 Tajikistan
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    Tons of beers are bottle conditioned with Brett. Orval being the most famous. I believe most cork and cage bottles from Anchorage are bottle conditioned with Brett among a ton of others.

    I’m just amazed that all the beer they blended had no residual sugar. If there was any at all it would have at least some carbonation. Especially the 6 month component of the blend.

    Bottle conditioning does refer to the refermentation to create carbonation but often times the beers need a much longer time to “condition”. You can get massive diacetyl, ropiness, etc when wild beers are bottled. And then they just come together and evolve dramatically so the sun becomes better than the parts.
     
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  13. WoolEnthusiast

    WoolEnthusiast Crusader (482) Dec 15, 2018 Connecticut
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    Today wasn’t bad at all. Couple patches of mud and a few ruts on Taylor but nothing that couldn’t be driven through in a FWD car.
     
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  14. M-Fox24

    M-Fox24 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,941) Mar 17, 2013 New Jersey
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  15. von_kaiser

    von_kaiser Maven (1,354) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut
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    New GOM and leaves of grass this upcoming week! Hope it lasts till Friday
     
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  16. M-Fox24

    M-Fox24 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,941) Mar 17, 2013 New Jersey
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    + the elusive Ephraim makes its return, along with a new low abv ale, and the continuation of Marie in 16oz cans is quite adrenaline fueling
     
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  17. MattOC

    MattOC Pooh-Bah (2,100) Jan 13, 2013 Massachusetts
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    Ephraim. Awesome. I’ve only had it once from a growler back in 2014.

    Yeah, a friend sent me a pic of a 16 oz. Marie can and I just wanted a fridge full of them.
     
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  18. wasatchback

    wasatchback Pooh-Bah (1,574) Jan 12, 2014 Tajikistan
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    16oz cans of Marie almost makes me want to move back home... almost
     
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  19. von_kaiser

    von_kaiser Maven (1,354) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut
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    yah...16oz marie is making me moist. hoping all these offerings will be the icing on my cake.
     
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