Drinking Pains: Beer and Gout

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  1. traction

    traction Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2010 Georgia
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    Certainly not me.
     
  2. Milktoast75

    Milktoast75 Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2012 Wisconsin

    I usually take the advice I like. Not the best advice. Human nature.
    Several friends suffer from gout. One is heavier drinker and not just beer. By using meds with no change in alcohol consumption he seems to maintain.
     
  3. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    I'm definitely not saying that you should always trust your doctor, either, as much of "medicine" is simply doing what is most popular among your colleagues with little to no actual science behind it. That said, that advice still tends to be better than taking advice from people who have no formal training and probably have zero idea of what the science/research says about the subject at hand.
     
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  4. traction

    traction Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2010 Georgia
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    I wish the best to your friend but having an n=1 experiment generally means very little
     
  5. Alefflicted

    Alefflicted Crusader (481) Dec 2, 2017 Minnesota

    Hey now, some of the best (and worse, but lets not focus of the negatives :wink:), advice I've ever received was from the random people on a beer website.
     
  6. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Many doctors would advise patients with gout not to drink at all because even if your medicine is preventing attacks, you're still getting joint deterioration. That said, full speed ahead for me :wink:

    I don't want to be laying in my deathbed with a heart condition, thinking damn I didn't need to give up beer because of gout!
     
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  7. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    My issue with anything like this is that people aren't born with gout, so it's something that they're doing that's causing it. Better to find the issue and solve it than to just try to cheat your way around it. Never had gout, personally, but if I did develop it, finding my next beer would that last of my worries.

    Gotta die of something, right?
     
  8. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    If you have gout, Gout attacks can be triggered by something you're eating/drinking, but having/getting Gout isn't caused by eating/drinking things. Your body is just overproducing uric acid, or the kidneys aren't removing it like they should. Some can manage Gout through diet, but when it gets more extreme then meds are needed. So - subtle difference between what causes Gout and what triggers Gout attacks.
     
  9. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Undoubtedly, but it's STILL something that the person is doing. Have you heard a better theory as to causation? If you have, I'd love to hear it. Whether it be gout, pseudogout, type 2 diabetes, high serum cholesterol, or any other metabolic abnormality, it is the person's inability to adapt to their environment that is causing the issue, whether that environment is exogenous or endogenous or both, is the question.
     
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  10. Belachos

    Belachos Initiate (0) Jul 23, 2016 New Jersey

    All pilsners are ok for goit. Warsteiners, Pilsner Urquell, Spaten.....just look for the pilsner brands. As for best goit avoidance methods, two shot glasses of tart cherry juice daily + 2 Tart Cherry tablets daily or consume fresh or canned whole cherries.(GNC for tablets) .also drink a lot of water daily. For meds if I get in serious trouble, Aleve, Prednisone, Colchicine all work. Aleve 2 tablets Day one and stop. Wait 24-48 hours for relief. Repeat 1 tab Day 3. If no relief see doctor for prednisone or colchicine.
     
  11. HogWort

    HogWort Initiate (0) Apr 25, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Do you recall what the newer medication is called?
     
  12. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Had a guy years ago that worked for me, lived in NH, he wouldn’t eat shellfish he thought the iodine in the food triggered his gout. He’d get it so bad he’d be bed ridden. Not a clue if it’s a trigger, but he was a very smart man.
     
  13. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    He didn't tell me.
     
  14. brewme

    brewme Grand Pooh-Bah (4,014) Mar 1, 2014 Massachusetts
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    I take apple cider vinegar & turmeric tablets daily, & that has worked wonders (I have heard tart cherry tablets too, but can never find them).
     
  15. southdenverhoo

    southdenverhoo Pooh-Bah (1,567) Aug 13, 2004 Colorado
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    I can’t say enough about colchicine. I’ve never used allopurinol, thinking I’m sort of “saving” that for when I really need it. I almost never have an attack anymore, because at the first sort of tingle I’ll do a little Colchicine regimen. (Two tabs, then one tab 3 hours later, repeat each morning for until warning signs go away.)

    Unfortunately some drug company got a patent on colchicine (a centuries old remedy) and its now sold in the US as Mitigare or Colcrys, at a ridiculous price. Still available outside the US over the counter; I can buy 60 tabs in Mexico for less than my copay for a Mitigare scrip for 20 tabs here. And because of diet changes, 60 tabs is about a 3 year supply even though I pop them as a prophylactic if I even feel a twinge in my toe.
     
  16. Sammy

    Sammy Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,744) Dec 1, 2003 Canada (ON)
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    colchicine is plant based, and can be used in a pinch, but allopurinol saved me. Get your uric numbers down preferably below 300. If you like beer, and you get gout attacks they are related. You need the meds.
     
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  17. drinkin-beeers

    drinkin-beeers Initiate (0) Jan 29, 2014 Montana

    Tried to do the apple cider vinegar and couldn’t stomach it the first time. Vomited almost instantly and now the smell alone sends me gagging towards the bathroom.
     
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  18. Lazybrain

    Lazybrain Initiate (0) Sep 2, 2019

    Suffering from gout for 11 years. I think the most logical solution is to consume the juice of 2 watermelons per day which is about 4 litres. It alkalizes the blood and flushes the kidneys. Don't eat or drink anything else until gone.
     
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