Styles You Want To Make A Comeback

Do you see Von Trapp? They have an excellent version, about as true as you're gonna get, too.

 

English Barleywines
Old Ale/Stock Ale
Wee Heavy/Scotish Ale
Rye IPA
Porters
Marzen

 

East Rock Brewing in New Haven just released a seasonal maibock that is quite good.

 

I didn't think they qualified here since I'm pretty sure dark milds never truly arrived on this side of the pond in the first place, but given that others have mentioned them I'll emphatically jump on that train.

I'm hard pressed to think of another style of beer I enjoy where there aren't at least a couple of readily available options at my local bottle shops. There are some brewery draft options now and again at least, but that's not the same.

You Pennsylvania folks can keep your Yards bragging to yourselves

 

English Bitter

 

Word.

 

What!?!

Cheers!

P.S. I brewed an English Bitter Ale earlier today using Maris Otter Pale Malt, West Yorkshire Ale yeast and East Kent Golding hops. Nice!

 

I’ve found their Vienna to be rather unusual. It doesn’t seem similar to the “legacy” Vienna Lagers made by some Austrian breweries that I’ve tasted, and it has many major differences compared to American takes like Devil’s Backbone and Jack’s Abby’s (now retired) Saxony Lager. For starters, it is far drier and hoppier than those. Still a good beer though!

 

Not one goddamned maibock on my local shelves right now. Helles bock would be nice too.

 

I found it to have a similar, but better, Vienna malt character than something like Stiegl Goldbrau; and isn't the Von Trapp family from Vienna originally. I seem to get a "not quite German" quality from their beers and always attributed it to that...

Anyway, yeah, the dryness is key, along with that crisp hoppiness and that toasty malt that pops. Too many "Vienna" lagers rely on caramel malts, but I love that this one doesn't.

 

What you outline there is my favorite brew on Earth. The malt and hops in Kent indeed have terroir. These beers are fun to drink. It's a great history.

 

You need to move to North Texas then. Just craft breweries we have 10 or so Dunkler Bock's on the shelves now and maybe 2 Maibock's. Bocks are popular in Texas probably due to the cachet that Shiner Bock has but the craft brewery versions are normally at least stronger than Shiner even if they may not be on the level at the Imports.

 

That’s because Goldbräu is a Helles, although many Austrian pale beers (labeled often as Märzen for reasons extensively discussed in previous threads on Vienna Lager) DO use a small amount of Vienna. I was speaking more for Ottakringer Wiener Original and Schwechtater Wiener Lager - the latter was Dreher’s own brewery, so I suspect this one is closest to his 1841 recipe. The Von Trapp’s are Salzburgers, and I always suspected their Pils and Helles resembled the grassy crispness of Stiegl, without the characteristic sour finish.

 

Right, right- I get what you're saying there. With the Goldbrau it took quite a bit before I could put my finger on that character I was picking up; so it's certainly more subtle. But it's definitely a part of the beers, whatever they're called.

This all goes to show that a lot of these more regional traditionally-oriented beers don't fall neatly into certain categories. But there still seems to be a commonality as well, which is what I was getting at.

 

Porter
Brown Ale
Black IPA
West Coast IPA
Oatmeal Stout
Rye beers

 

American Pale Ale.

 

Is Von Trapp easily available in NJ ? Don't think I have ever seen it-

 

Mostly not so hard to find- I've seen them at the chains like Bottle King or Joe Canals quite a bit. Certain items, like the Bock, may be harder to come by, however. I've only been able to get that one at the Whole Foods in Paramus.

 

Everett is great but as long as Anchor, Eddie Fitz, and founders are available, I’m satisfied. Just wish more breweries would make them.

 

Forgot to add:
30-60 schilling Scottish ales
Rye pale/IPAs
Schwarzbier
Dunkel (haven’t seen this brewed in a while)
Altbier
Vienna


Also, curious to see the avg age of BA’s posting in this thread. Just for science. I’d guess somewhere between 35-50?