To Brew or Not to Brew...

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by telejunkie, Jun 21, 2019.

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  1. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    Was planning to brew an imperial stout this weekend as I'm kid-free for it with few obligations. Started to weight out my grains last night and realized I was missing some dark grains that I had planned on in my recipe. So have some more grains coming next week, but thought I'd crowd-source thoughts here...

    So planning on a half barrel (15-gallon) batch. 10 gallons will be going into a barrel and the remaining 5 gallons will be getting a heavy dose of cherries. I have no black patent malt, and only a half pound of roasted barley (500L). But have the following:
    - tons of Perla Negra (dehusked chocolate malt - 340L)
    - plenty of Briess chocolate malt
    - plenty of chocolate rye
    - plenty of various cara malts ranging up to 170L

    So would you wait for black patent & roasted barley or go ahead with the brew this weekend with a possible cold-brewed grains addition afterwards?
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Personally, I'd wait. To me, grain bill is so key to an Imperial Stout that I wouldn't mess around.

    I suspect my vote will offset @GormBrewhouse's vote yet to be cast. :slight_smile:
     
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  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    "plenty of Briess chocolate malt"

    I brew with English chocolate malt and have zero experience with Briess chocolate malt. Are there a complexity of flavors from this product? If so, why not just brew with what you got? Otherwise wait?

    How about a compromise solution of just brewing a 5 gallon batch with the ingredients you have on hand to produce the Cherry Imperial Stout?

    Cheers!
     
  4. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    hahahahahahaa.

    I ,as well, will go with waiting, and, agree a imperial stout is mostly about the big complex grain bill.extras like nibs, cherries and other ingrediants do add, but ya gotta have the grain.

    next voter up
     
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  5. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    Cause...that'd require two brew days...way too much time invested and you know I'm not brewing next weekend. I do need to get my brown out of the barrel and want something ready to go when I empty it. Definitely leaning towards brewing this weekend and maybe steep the black patent in the fermenter....I mean, what could go wrong with that? :sunglasses:
     
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  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Dave, you are a wild man!

    I say "go for it'!!

    Cheers!
     
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  7. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    dave, you ever steep grains in the fermentor before?????
     
  8. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    haha...no, never done before...but wondering about it. I mean the roasting will have killed pretty much everything, right?
     
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  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Only way to know is via the Nike 'method': Just do it!

    Cheers!
     
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  10. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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  11. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I would look at what ingredients I have on hand and try to make the best of it. And you have a lot of choices. However I brew 2.5-5 gallon batches and am not afraid to throw out beer. If I brewed 15 gallons, I might be less adventurous.

    Nah. I’d wing it.
     
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  12. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    A truly1st-world problem on your hands.
    Bonne chance!
     
  13. Push_the_limits

    Push_the_limits Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2018 Antarctica

    In my last beer I steeped the toasted oak cubes in the fermentor (it was about 2 weeks). Flavor is very nicely subtle. It worked! But I poured boiling water over them first to sanitize and clean.

    If you're getting creative, why not deep roast some of the grains you have on hand? Oven...baking pan...200-400 F your choice...toss every 10 mins...a dry roast.
     
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  14. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    This may be a too late, but you could make the beer, and while it is fermenting either cold or hot steep the black patent, followed by pasteurizing the steeped liquor, and then add whenever it make sense to do so. Cheers!
     
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