What Beer Represents Your State?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by unlikelyspiderperson, May 23, 2018.

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  1. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    You've got a 5 percent law down there, don't you? Or am I thinking of Oklahoma? Either way, it's hard to brew anything too memorable.
     
  2. jvgoor3786

    jvgoor3786 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,222) May 28, 2015 Arkansas
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    No 5% law. No Sunday sales and no sales of singles (3 minimum). But they can brew whatever they want.
     
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  3. DrumKid003

    DrumKid003 Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2013 Oklahoma

    In both cases you've got it wrong. Oklahoma got rid of the 3.2%ABW (~4%ABV) for grocery/gas station (cold) beer. I'm kind of amazed that you can't think of any memorable beer that is <5%ABV.
     
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  4. AWA

    AWA Savant (1,195) Jul 22, 2014 California

    Sculpin IS California. It's really a good beer, but they're are way to many people enjoying it, and it's just too damn expensive.
     
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  5. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    I don't like your beer choice but your explanation made it the best answer
     
  6. BobsBrewReview

    BobsBrewReview Devotee (371) Dec 6, 2017 Florida

    Missouri = Boulevard Wheat
     
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  7. AWA

    AWA Savant (1,195) Jul 22, 2014 California

    Thanks man
     
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  8. SierraNevallagash

    SierraNevallagash Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2018 Maine
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    It's gotta be Allagash White. Allagash because, well, yeah...That's easy. White because, well...For half the year, everything is white!

    Allagash White. In the winter, keep it where it's warm... In the refrigerator.
     
  9. craigbelly

    craigbelly Pooh-Bah (2,770) Dec 31, 2015 Iowa
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    Toppling Goliath in general just elevated the state. It's a toss up between Kentucky Brunch or Pseudo Sue.
     
  10. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    so Iowa is best encapsulated by new school brewing techniques and artificial scarcity driven hype? not what comes to mind for me when I think of Iowa. I would also expect a beer that has at least a little corn:wink:
     
  11. MartinDoon

    MartinDoon Initiate (145) Aug 14, 2015 California

    Stone has fallen out of favor in SD. Same with Ballast. Modern Times and Societe rising. Burgeon makes excellent stuff, as does Beaver. Note: You mustn't forget Russian River when speaking about NorCal.
     
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  12. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Question. Why is the scarcity artifical rather than just based on limited capacity or physical/economic inability to brew enough beer to satisfy demand?
     
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  13. TrojanRB

    TrojanRB Grand Pooh-Bah (3,779) Jul 27, 2013 Texas
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    As much as I love Societe (I have three of their growlers), you can’t represent anything until you get some distribution and some traction with the general public.
     
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  14. PTWhitey

    PTWhitey Aspirant (226) Oct 2, 2012 Arizona

    Arizona- Probably Four Peaks Kilt Lifter. It's the one you are most likely to see on tap in a restaurant that has limited if not only one craft beer.
     
  15. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    What about that beer makes it so hard/expensive to produce? They distribute nationally, they certainly have the room to make more than the few hundred bottles they make now. I'm open to bring enlightened as to the rare and exclusive ingredients they use that make increased production impossible but I haven't heard any thing along those lines before
     
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  16. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    I didn’t say it was hard to produce or the ingredients were anything expensive, I’ve no idea about that.
    Also, It isn’t distributed nationally. It isn’t in PA yet., etc. it will be here soon, but they distribute to fewer that half the states.

    What exactly is their capacity that you think they could easily make more? You’ve visited the brewery and can confirm that they actually do have the capacity and that they deliberately chose to limit production when they could easily have made more?
     
  17. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    they're capacity appears to be something like 30,000 barrels a year and they just moved into a 26,000 sq foot brewing space with another 11,000 sq feet set aside for 'distribution and storage'. By nationally distributed I meant that they send beer all over the country, not necessarily to every single market. There are plenty of smaller breweries that make more of their popular barrel aged stout than TG, Olde Hickory with Event Horizon comes to mind. I didn't really think that this was such a controversial opinion, again I'm open to new information informing me that they can't make more kbbs because x. But from here it looks like they don't make more because people are willing to buy a ticket to get into an event and then pay $100 per 12 oz bottle for that beer, and if they made more of it then people might not do that, so if I were them I probably wouldn't make more either. But I see no evidence that there are any physical factors that keep them from making the beer less scarce, hence artificial scarcity
     
  18. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    You may want to look at their distribution map. That is hardly sending beer all over the country. (Unless they are violating multiple laws.)

    Never heard of Olde Hickory. Their capacity is more than 39,000 and they produce all the Event Horizon everybody wants? Do they produce any other beers?

    As for 30,000, Goose Island BCBS is now national and they are bigger than that, have a separate Warehouse for barrel aging, 3,000 sq feet or more IIRC, with the number of barrels needed and they have only begun to almost satisfy demand.

    It’s only scarcity marketing if you, the producer, know you have the capacity and physical resources to be able to satisfy demand but deliberately choose to limit production.

    Frankly I seriously doubt that the have either the capacity or the physical resources to drop all other beers and focus on just that one beer. Nor would I expect them to survive many years if they did so.

    They have to deal with the side effect of scarcity or stop brewing that beer.

    Note— a correction, that GI warehouse is rented and is 130,000 sq ft.
     
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  19. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Grand Pooh-Bah (3,999) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Looking at the map after they stall out in PA after two months they will be in Ohio before 2020. Next would be Colorado and California. They keep capacity the same and sell less in established territories and remain profitable for years. They will be Nationwide before our next Presidental election.
     
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  20. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    And that is precisely what I have proposed that I believe they are doing.

    Edit: I did look at their distribution map and they are in PA, I also found it odd that I have purchased their beer in CA, both on draft and in cans, in the recent past (maybe 9 months ago?) so I don't know if they pulled out of the market here or if the map is outdated on their site but something is up there
     
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