Help with dry hop schedule

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  1. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2009 New York

    So if I just make two seperate starters 1800 ml each I should be good just take half of the pack and put half and half in each starter?
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Yes. But 3200 ml divided by two is 1600 ml. I would not make them bigger than that, because your yeast (because of age driven approximate cell counts) into a bigger volume would be a fairly low innoculation rate.
     
  3. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2009 New York

    I wish I would of did alittal research before I started this lol for some reason I can't grasp this concept. So 2 liters would not work at all for this beer. Should I just put half of my pack of yeast into a growler and half in my 2 liter flask. Maybe do 1 liter in the growler and 2 liter in my flask, sorry if I am not getting this guys, i really should of read up more.
     
  4. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2009 New York

    how would you know how much of the yeast from the smack pack your putting into your starter, I guess I just need to eye ball it?
     
  5. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2009 New York

    ok I have decided that I am just going to do the 2 liter starter with half my smack pack then do a 1 liter growler starter with the other half of my smack pack. It's 1 cup DME per liter of water?
     
  6. bulletrain76

    bulletrain76 Maven (1,311) Nov 6, 2007 California

    I wouldn't stress the starter that much. 1800ml is probably good. It's better to underpitch (slightly) an IPA because yeast drags IBUs out of solution and too much will take significant bitterness out of your beer. It sounds like you are already on the low side for hops, so this is something to consider. If the yeast is healthy, 001 should attenuate fine at a slightly lower pitching rate.
     
  7. bulletrain76

    bulletrain76 Maven (1,311) Nov 6, 2007 California

    Briess carapils isn't like a regular caramel malt though. It isn't really sweet, as it mostly adds dextrins to beer, and has little flavor at all. Will it add body and raise finishing gravity? Yes, but not residual sweetness. I think it's a mistake to lump carapils in when talking about caramel malt percentages. It's its own animal and should be treated as such.
     
  8. bulletrain76

    bulletrain76 Maven (1,311) Nov 6, 2007 California

    100g per liter is what you should go for. Don't know what that is by volume.
     
  9. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2009 New York

    really the only thing now thats kinda stressing me out is my yeast, I just want to make sure I do this right and not throw money down the drain. I have my process down great, got my grain all ready to go, when it comes to adjusting ingredients I don't have that luxury right now besides getting some more hops. But by splitting the smack pack in half into a 2 liter and 1 liter starter will this work, thats all I need to know at this point. When this brew is done I will adjust if I need to with different grains etc etc. My homebrew store said a 2 liter starter will prob be enough and said not to worry about it, but then I hear different. :astonished:
     
  10. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Make 3.2 Liters of starter wort. Divide it into as many containers of any size as you want. Put the yeast in the containers proportionally to the amount of wort you put in each. (Don't just divide the yeast evenly if the wort volumes are not even.)
     
  11. aficionado

    aficionado Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2011 New Jersey

    I recently brewed two 3 gallon batches of the same recipes with the same exact processes. However, one had 8% Muntons carapils, the other had 4%. The 8% version was sweeter, but the body was the same for both beers. Whenever I buy ingredients online, I usually double up so I can brew two batches. Though I had a little extra carapils leftover from last time, so I figured this would be a good experiment. And there was certainly a difference in sweetness. In closing, I would say that carapils does provide sweetness... but not the same level of sweetness of a higher lovibond crystal malt. The contribution of carapils would be more noticeable to a brewer who is sensitive to sweet vs. a brewer with a sweet tooth.
     
  12. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2009 New York

    ok got it, I will do my 2 liter flask and a 1.2 liter in my growler, I guess I am just eye balling it when I am pouring the smack pack in? Also is the standard ratio for yeast starter is 1 cup DME to 1 liter h20
     
  13. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I don't know by volume, and that's really not the best method, becuase DME is quite compactable. For 3.2 Liters of wort, I'd use about 10.9 ounces (by weight) of DME.

    Edit: yes, eyeballing the yeast split should be close enough.
     
  14. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    Why would the beer with 4% extra carapils be sweeter but not have increased body? If you're saying that it was sweeter because there was increased residual dextrin then wouldn't that also increase body? What was the difference in the FG?

    Also, dextrin sugars, like those provided by carapils, aren't really sweet. Taste some maltodextrin, which is pure dextrin sugar, and you'll see for yourself.
     
  15. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2009 New York

    Ok I will measure out 10.9 oz I have a scale at home
     
  16. aficionado

    aficionado Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2011 New Jersey

    @Homebrew42:

    I do taste sweet from chewing on carapils. I don't need to do the same with maltodextrin because I don't use maltodextrin. FG of the 8% version was only one point higher on a cheap hydrometer. I don't see it as "the one with 4% more carapils". I see it as "the one with double the carapils".
     
  17. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2009 New York

    kinda off the topic but have you guys had Hoptimum by sierra nevada man now thats what I am looking for in a imperial IPA WOW that's awesome !:grinning:
     
  18. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    So why would the beer with "double the carapils" be sweeter but not have increased body? If you're saying that it was sweeter because there was increased residual dextrin then wouldn't that also increase body?
     
  19. aficionado

    aficionado Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2011 New Jersey

    Perhaps because I sensed more of a light candy sweetness shined through in the 8% version. But at only 4% vs. 8%, the difference in mouthfeel was not really a factor. The sweetness however was noticeable.
     
  20. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    Yeah but I don't see it as "only 4% vs. 8%", I see it as double the amount.
     
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