Past and present perspective on NEIPAs?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Roybert, Oct 25, 2019.

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What is your relationship with NEIPAs?

  1. NEIPAs never appealed to me

    13 vote(s)
    8.6%
  2. I loved my first NEIPA and still seek them out

    70 vote(s)
    46.1%
  3. Most NEIPAs dont appeal to me, but I enjoy an exceptional example on occasion

    36 vote(s)
    23.7%
  4. I enjoyed NEIPAs in the past, but I've lost the desire to drink them

    28 vote(s)
    18.4%
  5. I disliked NEIPAs in the past, but I've developed a taste for them

    5 vote(s)
    3.3%
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  1. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Like a lot of others here, it was quite eye opening when I first encountered the style, but the endless flood of 'new' versions has definitely worn on me and I pretty much now only take a chance on a few brewers I trust if I have a hankering. The ones that strike the right balance for my palate are still really wonderful beer experiences
     
  2. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I am very fearful to drop any amount of money on one's with lactose additions.
     
  3. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,041) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
    Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    I don't actively seek them out anymore, but I still buy them when I come across them. Perhaps I've also become a little more discerning concerning which ones I buy.

    I can enjoy a well-made NEIPA just as much as I enjoy a well-made WCIPA, variety is the spice of life, after all.
     
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  4. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Savant (1,065) Aug 2, 2017 Pennsylvania

    "I'm not here to argue, but all y'alls opinions are trash because they don't match mine exactly" - EvenMoreJesus.... probably
     
  5. thewrongtone

    thewrongtone Zealot (743) Oct 15, 2006 Arkansas

    Hell yeah. We can use the results of this poll to finally create the BA caste system. All of us who enjoy the style can be tossed into the darkness with only our baby palates to keep us warm, while the real beer drinkers ascend to their rightful place upon the Lager Throne. There, they will enjoy millennia discussing the history and etymology of British and German styles; only arguing about whether or not porters are stouts based on Victorian era shipping manifests.

    So it is written.
     
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  6. AElfwine_Nerevar

    AElfwine_Nerevar Savant (1,174) Nov 16, 2018 North Dakota
    Trader

    I quit dropping $18+ a four pack on NEIPAs unless it's a brewery with which I am well acquainted. Luckily I have plenty of great local haze in the $12-16 range.
     
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  7. mogulskier

    mogulskier Zealot (690) Feb 3, 2019 California

    I hear that. If they added Lactose (e.g. milkshake IPAs), I am out. No sale.
     
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  8. Genuine

    Genuine Maven (1,347) May 7, 2009 Connecticut

    As much as I don’t want to admit it, I love the NEIPA style. I’m on my 8th rendition of my homebrewed NEIPA and I always seem
    To have one on tap. It blows my mind that you can create those flavors from hops alone, along with an amazing hop aroma. I remember checking out new IPA’s about 10-12 years ago...hell, I remember my first Ghandi Bot (I know, not an NEIPA) and relishing in the amazing citrus/pine aroma jumping out of the glass. Then heady topper came around and it seemed like they packed even more hops into a can. Then Treehouse, Trillium, BB, etc. Such amazing examples of what you can coax out of hops and still provide just enough bitterness. I still love old school west coast IPA’s but the NEIPA will always be in my rotation. The other thing that’s amazing, is how many people are open to NEIPA’s than WC IPA’s.
     
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  9. Satchboogie

    Satchboogie Initiate (0) Oct 16, 2010 Belgium
    Trader

    I think 'NE IPA' has become an uncontrollable monster and I can't help but feel a bit responsible for the problem. I raved about Vermont IPAs back in the early 2010s and really liked what Tree House and Trillium were doing back then. Now it's just a disaster that gets worse everyday. Breweries have jumped on the trend to produce a 'hazy' ipa, completely missing the entire point... Haze isnt the point, just a by product. I just really wish the fad would go away. I'm also tired of the trend of new breweries making 30 different adjunct filled garbage beers while totally ignoring how to brew a classic representation of traditional styles.
     
  10. rightcoast7

    rightcoast7 Maven (1,330) Apr 2, 2011 Maine
    Trader

    @islay ❤️❤️❤️ NEIPAs
     
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  11. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    I stopped by my regular on-the-way-home-from-work liquor store (a relatively small, family-owned business) and they had a brewer in sampling beers. As I was at the checkout, preparing to leave, a lady (50-ish???) was at the sample table and asked (and I quote), "Do you have anything hazy?"

    Ugh! :rolling_eyes:
     
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  12. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
    Trader

    Haven’t had one in a long time, have to say the better ones are outstanding, the others fairly mediocre. I think I prefer a well done beer like Headhunter, Alchemist beers, Lawson’s etc.
     
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  13. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I steadfastly hold to my initial response that these beers shouldn't even be called IPAs.
     
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  14. larryi86

    larryi86 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,118) Apr 4, 2010 Delaware
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I enjoyed them the first time I had and still enjoy well brewed ones now. With how popular they are and many are made now, I no longer wait in line for them. I feel they are less special now, but still very enjoyable to drink.
     
  15. defunksta

    defunksta Grand Pooh-Bah (4,164) Jan 18, 2019 Wisconsin
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    I didn't enjoy them a first, ended up developing a taste for them. However, still prefer a standard or west-coast over them. I respect the style, but not the craze.
     
  16. denver10

    denver10 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,155) Nov 17, 2010 New Mexico
    Pooh-Bah

    Never cared for them. Like them even less today.
     
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  17. thewrongtone

    thewrongtone Zealot (743) Oct 15, 2006 Arkansas

    The misoneism is real.

    Possibly the same type of people who would have been disgusted at the amount of hops in Ballatine and Liberty Ale. “Give me a real, English IPA. Enough of this pine sap garbage!”
     
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  18. markFex

    markFex Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2018 Arizona

    This juicy, hazy, New England style thing is very confusing to me. I think an IPA should have at least moderate bitterness but some of these aren't bitter at all. Some taste like they belong in a little box with a straw. Many won't state IBU's in their description. I'd say about half of these should be referred as just New England ale; definitely not IPA.
     
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  19. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I just read this in Jerry Seinfeld's voice.

    As for me, I dove pretty deep down the rabbit hole initially. As time has gone by and I have had several lackluster examples of the style, I have decided to only try new ones from breweries I trust. Weldwerks, odd13 and TRVE are automatic buys along with a few national brands as well. I enjoy them when well made, but I can say that about any style really.
     
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  20. LiquidAmber

    LiquidAmber Grand Pooh-Bah (5,734) Feb 20, 2009 Washington
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah

    Actually, none of the above. I chose "Most NEIPAs don't appeal to me, but I enjoy exceptional examples on occasion", but it's not because the ones I like are necessarily exceptional (I'm guessing that many I dislike are actually exceptional for the style). I like a handful of hazies, but most are not appealing to me. The hazy NE style IPAs are all over the map with bitterness. I absolutely cannot understand the appeal of the low bitterness versions, which are sometimes interesting for the first few sips, then descend into the territory of an glass of fruit juice that sat out too long on the counter. I have truly enjoyed some of these that have a moderate to striking bitterness that enhances the fruit flavors, but they are not the majority.
    The biggest problem for me is that unlike a typical WC style IPA, where if you like it, you probably can buy it again in the future, most of these locally are one-offs. For me, for whom 80%-90% are not to my taste, it is too big a gamble to buy one of the 10-20 brand new hazy cans available an any one time, with a clever name that will never be seen again. I rarely buy them now unless I've seen a promising review here, or just to try a new brewery that has few other options. This has been the biggest disappointment of the craft brewing world for me because I really like the ones I like, but will probably never see them again, and I'll most likely miss some I will enjoy because it's too big a mystery as to what's in the can.
     
    #40 LiquidAmber, Nov 4, 2019
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2019
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