"dry hopping" with whiskey Barrell stave

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  1. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    @hojo813 I have no notes, so my guess is two weeks.
     
  2. Jasonja1474

    Jasonja1474 Savant (1,100) Oct 15, 2018 Tennessee
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    [​IMG] I don’t know if you can see my image but I just made this and I soaked my whisky wood chips in Woodruff reserve bourbon while primary fermentation worked. Then put them in a Muslin bag and let them float for about 2 weeks. Turned out great with great bourbon flavor. I also used 2 lbs of toasted coconut at the same time and same method.
     
  3. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Right-clicking on the tiny icon and then choosing 'Open in new tab' allows me to see the pic. Nice-looking beer to go along with your description of the taste. Did you add the soaking bourbon to the fermenter too? I think I may have done so and that may be why the oak flavor was so strong.

    By the way, nice label too.
     
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  4. Jasonja1474

    Jasonja1474 Savant (1,100) Oct 15, 2018 Tennessee
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    Sorry no I put the wood chips in a bowl and then filled the bowl up with the bourbon and covered will my beer fermented. I did not pour the liquid into the beer cause I didn’t want a huge bourbon taste and I think it hit the mark. The brew master at Blackberry Farm Brewery said it was really nice so that made my day!!
     
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  5. hojo813

    hojo813 Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2018 Virginia

    Right on. That's what I was thinking. Had to throw the stave away. Had a green dust on it after a year. Not chancing it. Doing the chip route. I got the JD grilling chips. I have some JD honey whiskey I don't care for i will use to soak. Tomorrow is brew day!
     
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  6. Jasonja1474

    Jasonja1474 Savant (1,100) Oct 15, 2018 Tennessee
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    Post some pics
     
  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I have only used cubes in my homebrewing but from my readings it seems that chips provide their flavors very quickly (in a matter of a few days). It would be prudent to consider this as part of your beer production schedule.

    Cheers!
     
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  8. hojo813

    hojo813 Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2018 Virginia

    Good to know. I have had various opinions on chips. I've heard everything from 2 days to 2 weeks in the beer. I first heard the same timeline for soaking the chips in the whiskey. I'm still going to soak them two weeks. But I think I will put it in for about 3 days and then see what it tastes like. I might just do a muslin bag. But right now I'm trying to figure out why my black IPA tastes like cough syrup when nothing has changed over the past 20 batches...
     
  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Does "cough syrup" = a medicinal taste?

    Are you using tap water to brew? Do you treat your water (e.g., carbon block filtering or add campden tablets) to remove chlorine?

    Cheers!
     
  10. hojo813

    hojo813 Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2018 Virginia

    Yes yes. I have brewed 20 batches with the same setup. Nothing has changed. My sanitizer is chlorine free as well. I have precise temp control. It is on the 3rd generation of wyeast 1056 from washing. About 5 months old. But I've used yeast I've washed on the 5th or 6th generation with no off flavors. This also was my first time using my oxygenation kit I rigged up with a regulator and a tank from the hardware store. Other than that I've been using tap water for years. I live in Virginia we actually have good tap water. Even the breweries around here use the tap water and barely treat it. No chlorine in the tap water really other than usual. I've never treated my water which is something I probably should do but it's just one less thing. I know I know it's very important but this is just an anomaly and I'm trying to nail it down
     
  11. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Hard to tell from above, but are you saying that you did nothing to remove chlorine/chloramines from your water?
     
  12. hojo813

    hojo813 Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2018 Virginia

    On a side note, I tried another brew. Tastes like a totally different beer. No hop aroma or much flavor but nothing medical. Almost tastes like an over bitter lager. I used midnight wheat or the first time. Only thought that was for color. It's really bugging me. I do bottle still so it could've been that. Very irritating.
     
  13. hojo813

    hojo813 Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2018 Virginia

    There's my guru! I almost contacted you directly. No I do not do anything to remove chlorine. It has never been needed. I've done like 20 batches. I suppose I should get my water tested
     
  14. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    It never hurts to know what's in your water, and it can actually be very helpful once you start paying attention to mash pH and building water profiles to complement beer styles.

    Unless your water comes from a private well, it would be very unusual for it to not be disinfected with chlorine or chloramines.

    Assuming your water does contain chlorine/chloramines (something easily learned from your supplier, without testing), there are a few reasons why chlorophenols (the medicinal taste) might be perceptible in one batch, but not others...

    - different grain bills and/or different hops (or amount of hops) and/or yeast strains... chlorophenols are formed from chlorine and phenols/polyphenols, the latter of which come from grains and/or hops and/or yeast.

    - different sparge temps/pH. Higher temps and pH encourage release of Tannins (polyphenols), which can combine with chlorine.

    - off flavor may be masked by other flavors, depending on the style/ingredients.

    - different levels of chlorine/chloramines in the water on different days.

    - bacterial infection
     
  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Given that input I would be willing to bet that you are perceiving chlorophenols in your batch of Black IPA.

    I would recommend that you add the process of removing chlorine/chloramine from your tap water in future brewing.

    Cheers!
     
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