Revolution Brewing (2019)

I prefer the 2017 stems -- mainly because I'm out of cabinet and shelf space but can probably hang more glass racks on my ceilings and under cabinets

 

Say what now?

 

Doesn't each room have its own ceiling?

Or at least each level? (I live in a split level. Mom and dad let me stay in the subbasement 'cuz I mow the lawn and shovel the driveway.)

 

I'm not sure why people seem to care so much about sharing beer while in line? It is a bunch of people sitting in chairs for 3+ hours waiting for the doors to open, what is wrong with sharing beers while we wait? Also love how it is now a "shit show" bottle share. I can't imagine how overwhelming the world is for you all if that was considered a shit show.

 

I think the question is... why do you care? You guys pick the weirdest hills to die on.

 

I think its annoying that people start bottle shares when they've been asked politely by the brewery, venue, etc to please not. I'm not sure what Rev's policy officially is but they obviously haven't tried to stop it. So I dunno but I assume that's why people get annoyed.

 

Yeah but Rev doesn't ever say not to open in beers while in line? The only thing they say is under no circumstances do you take beer out on the sidewalk. It's like BA wants to be mad about something so they are making up policies for Rev then complain when people don't follow them.

 

I'm just saying that I think what annoys Chicago Pez is that this happens all over. Policies at Rev (or anywhere) be dammed this bottle sharing in line thing has kind of become its own beast. No one cares what anyone has asked "we're drinking whales bro!".

 

Many lines devolve into shit-show bottle shares. Not necessarily talking about the Rev ones. Garbage strewn everywhere, empty bottles, empty solo cups, people hammered and stumbling around, bumping into you, no permission to actually do it, or no respect when asked not to, etc. I've done it before, and have no problem with it so long as it's not a complete shit-show. When the above stuff starts to happen, though, is when I have issues with it. If you're going to do it, at least be cool about it. Unfortunately, most the time it seems that it's a shit-show rather than a couple friendly beers shared with people in line. Not to mention, the amount of cutting that takes place during them is ridiculous. One person gets there early, then 5 of his buddies show up a couple hours later, and all the sudden all 6 are in front of you in line. When 6 or 7 different groups do it, there's now 50 or 60 more people in front of you. I've been to some great lines where the sharing has been awesome, and everyone has respected the brewery, and everything that goes with sharing in line. I've also been to some that were just an absolute disaster, which IMO, leads to a lot of these breweries doing their releases as online lotteries with pick-up windows, as opposed to day-of releases with lines.

 

You do know that it is illegal, right? And yes, I've done plenty of illegal things and know that most other have as well. But, that inherently makes it not be something that should be expected by people.

Considering the behavior of some that we have all seen by drunk people and then some of the shenanigans that occur with line cutting, etc., I'm surprised there hasn't been an incident with fighting or something. An incident like that would ruin the release and put the brewery in danger in terms of the law and licenses. It may be a small risk of that occurring, but insisting on being able to drink in line in the middle of the day (or even better, before dawn) and make that risk even possible just seems a bit strange.

 

It's on Revolutions property. Is it illegal to drink beer on their property? Somebody better tell them...

I'm convinced that you haven't actually been to a Rev release.

1. Sharing doesn't occur on the street/public way. It is in their garage/back lot area.

2. People that were there for 4 hours drinking were incredibly friendly and in no way being disruptive.

3. Rev employees engage in conversation with these "criminals" often and not once have they said "hey you can't drink that out here!!"

4. In your strawman scenario that this will lead to the end of Revolution and them shutting down it implies people truly care about a person here and there cutting in line. For the most part, people do not care at these releases because they have plenty of beer for every person in line. I'm pretty sure they didn't run out of Boss until around 8 PM that night.

 

The Rev releases didn't start as bottle shares, with the exception of the freebies that Rev actually handed out. And I don't think anyone is speaking specifically to the Rev releases, or only about the Rev releases. They're really more the exception than the rule when it comes to this kind of thing, though.

 

Just a heads up that there is no VSOD at the Brewpub today. Drove in from the burbs today just to grab VSOD (couldn't make the release), got there & was told that they sold through it all yesterday & would be getting more in tomorrow. Unfortunately I couldn't wait around 2 hours for the taproom to open so I was SOOL.....

 

In general, most of the releases except for Revolution's have bottle sharing in public space. Revolution's is definitely different with it being on their property...although I'm not sure that it's still legal to have customers bringing in external alcoholic beverages and consuming them at a brewery.

I haven't missed a Revolution release, so it looks like I did a great job of fooling you there. But, I have been lucky enough to skip the lines this year, so I haven't seen the sharing at the past few. I did have at least a couple buddies tell me that the Boss Jacket release definitely took the sharing to a bigger level, though.

I'm not saying that sharing beers isn't fun and can't be done in a civilized manner, but vigorously defending the "right" to do it just seems silly when it is inherently illegal and could lead to some bad consequences for the brewery you're there to support. Again, a small risk, but it is enough of a risk that some breweries specifically call that risk out and ask people not to share (yet people still do it).

 

I don't even really care that much about sharing. If there wasn't sharing going on or the brewery said not to then I wouldn't be upset. I do care about the ridiculousness of people being mad about something the brewery allows people to do. Cancel culture has officially made it to BA. But now we must cancel these pieces of shit that share their beers with strangers!

 

Reading is hard?

Has nothing to do with cancel culture.

And where are people mad?

I see a discussion going on... on a discussion board. Whodathunkit?

 

several people replying back to back saying how stupid neckbeards are for bottle sharing and how it isn't allowed. Plenty of people are clearly mad about how the rev releases go. We had people complaining about cigars and then it turned into "why do people share beer there too?".

Just people looking for things to be annoyed by. Most of these guys weren't even at the release but they feel the need to be upset that people bottle share at them.

 

I think people are more annoyed about how line sharing has a tendency to devolve these releases instead of make them more fun, over time. To the extent where breweries even stop doing live releases for their beer. Do you honestly believe a lot of them haven't stopped lines/love releases due to the liability of bottle shares, and the ignorance of people who do it, despite being asked not to?

And I'm a smoker, and wouldn't ever dream of smoking in that garage/loading dock area. And I, myself, would complain about someone smoking cigars in there. It's ignorant, and again, that's coming from someone who smokes cigarettes.

 

What breweries went from live releases to online only? More stopped doing it because people complained that they can't wait in line all morning since they have families and work. Then they moved it to online and people complained that it's too random. Then they did a lottery and people complained that it was rigged.

 

Anyone that doesn't get away from someone when they smoke is a pretty big piece of shit. Period. Go the fuck away. There's no reason I need to be impacted by you. You're being a lazy, entitled piece of shit if you smoke next to people like that.

That's the reason why anyone cares about shares - people impact people negatively when they shouldn't. It's nice like people are against alcohol. Even when shares are allowed, if someone is in any way not respectful (leaves trash, gets handsy, gets wobbly, gets loud, etc.), they shouldn't be doing it, and everyone has a right to complain. It's that simple. In a perfect world, I shouldn't even know you're doing it unless I see it. You shouldn't be allowed to impact me with your behavior. And no, it's not the responsibility of the establishment to provide trash cans or porta-potties.