Beer That Tastes Like Beer?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Bitterbill, Jan 19, 2020.

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  1. frankdank

    frankdank Initiate (182) May 19, 2019 North Dakota

    Uh, I don't know. Can you give me an example of food that tastes like food?
     
  2. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    White Castle sliders! :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  3. Prince_Casual

    Prince_Casual Savant (1,236) Nov 3, 2012 District of Columbia
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    I had a BA B.O.R.I.S. yesterday for the first time in ages (the first time I've seen it on a shelf in ages).

    have gotten away from doing reviews on this site but it's surely one of my highest rated ones I did, and I wanted to revisit if anything had changed - the beer or myself.

    Nope... what a brew! People making lacto-stout + vanilla + nutella + coffee + marshmallow + :insert desert: should take note. Stout that tastes like stout and barrel. The density of that beer is truly insane.
     
  4. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    Many, many almost straw man arguments against and/or ridiculing the users of the phrase, using ignorance, not understanding beer history, can't define what beer tastes like, can't define what food tastes like, etc., arguments.

    You know who you are and you know your arguments are empty.

    Why?

    Because the phrase is not used to describe precisely what beer tastes like, but to point out beers that taste like something else entirely.

    Leaving aside the AAL crowd (who probably mean anything other than an AAL... again, easy to understand what they mean and it has nothing to do with a broad definition of what beer tastes like)...

    Focusing on members here and other craft beer drinkers, when they use the phrase it means beer that does NOT taste like:
    • muffins
    • Reese's Peanut Butter Cups
    • donuts
    • milkshakes
    • s'mores
    • sweet fruit smoothies
    • juice boxes
    • etc.
    You can argue all you want about how the phrase can't be defined, is ignorant of beer history, how the taste of muffins can't be defined, etc... the point is, I suspect you perfectly well understand what is meant by the phrase.

    /rant
     
  5. Purz

    Purz Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2020

    I think the phrase is silly. I feel like it's the equivalent of someone saying they want a wine that tastes like wine and they're referring to box wine or maybe a Merlot. I'm not big into wine but I really doubt people ever say that and I've never heard anyone say that like I've heard ppl say the beer line. They obviously have stuff that's very different and very over the top / fruity booty as well.
     
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  6. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    ISO: Peanut butter cup wine!
     
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  7. islay

    islay Savant (1,211) Jan 6, 2008 Minnesota

    I think wine, like ice cream, is a bad example for the folks who claim that "beer that tastes like beer" is a meaningless phrase because there are so many wines that use flavoring adjuncts that indeed don't "taste like wine" (or at least intentionally taste less like wine and more like something else than do many other wines). "Wine that tastes like wine" is quite meaningful in that context. And, yes, there are many wine aficionados who turn up their noses at flavored wines.
     
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  8. SudsDoctor

    SudsDoctor Pooh-Bah (1,739) Nov 23, 2008 New York
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    Peanut butter and grape jelly is a prime combination, so PB-flavored wine might actually work. :wink:
     
  9. Fordcoyote15

    Fordcoyote15 Pooh-Bah (2,368) Nov 19, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    It's truly shocking when you read through the top 250 list and then read the top 250 beers of fame.

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/top-rated/

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/fame/

    Its almost kind of disheartening how far away from what beer has been for hundreds of years, in just the last 10 years or so.
     
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  10. CheapHysterics

    CheapHysterics Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Is that an apples to apples comparison? Or would food that tastes like food be equivalent to saying beverages that taste like beverages? Maybe beer that tastes like beer is like asking for sandwiches that taste like sandwiches.

    Yes, there's still so much variation within the category beer that it's not a very helpful description, but I think most people get the gist of what someone means when they say it, especially if you take into account where they are from. An American probably means something like Miller and a German probably means something like Bitburger, etc. No one means this: https://www.thrillist.com/amphtml/news/nation/pontoon-brewing-trix-skittles-beer
     
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  11. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    What it reminds me of is people discussing something that has no value, relevance, definition, description, or usage over a glass of wine or four, and with a good buzz. "Hic, no what thish Merlot tastes like? Do you? Do you know? Wine. That's what thishh Merlot tastes like. Wine taste, that's what.."
     
  12. Bshaw22

    Bshaw22 Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2013 Wisconsin
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    Fresh Pilsner Urquell. That is beer that tastes like beer. Any sort of well crated Czech pils would suffice.
    Reality Czech - Moonlight Brewing please
     
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  13. Warwick7

    Warwick7 Zealot (505) May 25, 2019 Maryland

    Never seen it on Draught, Id love to have it though. Mackeson is amazing and have been buying it by the case, found it locally. Can you get it?

    I added Mackeson to this list, it does have lactose in it but I think Its enought to make it taste great but you can still definitelty taste the malt.
     
  14. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    I bought another 6pack of Anchor Steam Beer and that, to me, screams beer that tastes like beer like few others. Shrugs.
     
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  15. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I was beer shopping last night and I spotted the above in the cooler.

    It's DuClaw's Regular Beer - "A Beer That Tastes Like Beer." I like how it was next to Decadent's Blueberry Pancake beer. Just appreciate the dominant text on the cans for a minute. One can says "beer" and the other can says "pancake."

    So, without any other info, what would you expect the DuClaw beer to be like? A lambic? Of course not, even if lambic has had a longer claim than an adjunct lager. The DuClaw beer is a lager made with rice that's hopped with Chinook and Hallertau. On paper, it's basically a Budweiser as seen through a craft beer lens. Make of that what you will.

    Decadent specializes in making beers reminiscent of other foods - especially desserts, smoothies and sweet breakfasts. The Decadent beer is made with blueberries, vanilla, maple syrup, and caramelized sugar. A reviewer on a beer rating app said it "tastes like a blueberry pancake." I doubt you'll find any reviews stating it "tastes like beer."

    Both of these beers are emulating something. Budweiser vs pancakes.

    If beer can taste like anything, then we can use some logic and determine that this Decadent beer tastes like beer too. Then going one step further in the logic, it's fair to say that while I am eating blueberry pancakes with whipped cream and maple syrup, I can say that those pancakes taste like beer. Even though I can show those flavors being found in beer, would that be an appropriate comment to make?

    I'm actually not trying to make a case about what I personally think "beer tastes like." I'm just putting this stuff on display after a serendipitous encounter.
     
  16. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    I always thought a brewer should come out with a full-line of similarly named beers - besides "REGULAR", there'd be the light-beer "UNLEADED" and, of course, the super-premium "HI-TEST". (Heck, they could even use a defunct gasoline brand name like Sinclair - nah, that's a right wing media co...ummm... Esso? Oh, I know - Cities Service! Local is in.)

    One of my favorite beer lines was a short-lived series from Rainier (back when it was understood that "light lager" was common terminology for the standard AAL's of the day, before the low-cal "light beers" took off):
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  17. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Love those bottles.
     
  18. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    The brand of Esso is not defunct. I saw plenty of Esso gas stations last summer during my vacation in Canada.

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    Cheers!
     
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  19. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Canada? the country with Betty Crocker on their money? Where Schitt's Creek is located? I thought they were defunct. (Or maybe I'm confusing it with Brexit.)

    Esso had the best road maps.

    OK, then - how's 'bout - SOCONY? SKELLY? HESS? (Next Christmas, the HESS BEER DELIVERY TRUCK!)

    Or, just have the guys in New Ulm, MN do it. (C'mon and try to sue us Royal Dutch Shell...)
     
  20. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    @jesskidden , esso is Sinclair oil company (S...O...) And both are still alive, esso in Canada and Sinclair still rocking the dinosaur all over the american southwest
     
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