Night Shift - egos & nepotism

Discussion in 'New England' started by banjoplayer2020, Jan 27, 2020.

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  1. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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  2. 7irondave

    7irondave Pooh-Bah (1,918) Jun 22, 2016 Massachusetts
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  3. 7irondave

    7irondave Pooh-Bah (1,918) Jun 22, 2016 Massachusetts
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    Welcome to BA

    Nice touch telling people on a public beer forum "do not speak" about the brewery in this particular discussion

    Do you still work at NS? If not, when and why did you leave?
     
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  4. DirtyHeatExchange

    DirtyHeatExchange Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2020

    Thank you and you are right. I apologize for saying "please do not speak". This was meant towards a realistic experience with the economy.
     
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  5. 7irondave

    7irondave Pooh-Bah (1,918) Jun 22, 2016 Massachusetts
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    Do you still work at NS? If not, when and why did you leave?
     
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  6. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    And @DirtyHeatExchange were you able to find a new job? If so, do you like it better than the job at NS? How long did it take you to get the job after leaving NS? How seriously was your life disrupted by needing to change employers?
     
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  7. William_Navidson

    William_Navidson Pooh-Bah (1,557) May 1, 2015 Pennsylvania
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    It's not entirely clear to me how rising prices (in terms of homes, healthcare, cost-of-living) and stagnant wages -i.e. the main thrust of the article- relates to people "living above their means."
     
  8. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    If that was aimed towards me, I apologize I wasn’t implying I know what it’s like. I was genuinely asking questions.

    Debates about whether the economy is strong or not and about unemployment rates aside, is it hard to get a job at a brewery today? Again, I have no idea if it is or isn’t, I’m asking.
     
  9. William_Navidson

    William_Navidson Pooh-Bah (1,557) May 1, 2015 Pennsylvania
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    I’m not sure there’s a simple, general answer to this. My guess is that it depends heavily on what niche of the industry, locale, one’s experience, etc. That being said, I think we all know that brewing certainly isn’t known for its favorable labor conditions.
     
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  10. 7irondave

    7irondave Pooh-Bah (1,918) Jun 22, 2016 Massachusetts
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    Don't buy/rent somewhere you can't afford. Rent or buy something you can afford and cost-of-living will not be an issue. Sometimes that means you have to look outside your target area. My wife and myself had to and did just that.

    Many people love to keep up with the Jones' at the detriment of their wallet. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying everyone that runs into hardships are in that position because of overspending. I am saying, if you are hit with a hardship, sometimes you have to explore all possible options even if that means you have to compromise on something.

    I don't intend to railroad this thread any further. Personally I believe this economy is strong enough to give employees more options than they've had in a long time. I respect your opinion if you disagree. My opinion/perspective might be different than yours and that is fine. :beers:
     
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  11. William_Navidson

    William_Navidson Pooh-Bah (1,557) May 1, 2015 Pennsylvania
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    Thanks for your advice and your concern for my personal financial stability, but I can assure you that my wife and I have a manageable mortgage, own our vehicles, have manageable student debt, and comfortable salaries in stable industries commensurate with our doctorate degrees that comport with our spending on luxuries.

    I was only commenting on the fact that your offhand comment didn’t appear to address the concerns in the article in any sense.

    One can be personally financially stable while also being cognizant of rising prices, wealth inequality, and the general financial issues facing most of the country (that I will note are divorced from the notion of “spending within one’s means”).
     
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  12. 7irondave

    7irondave Pooh-Bah (1,918) Jun 22, 2016 Massachusetts
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    I was speaking in general terms not necessarily just to 'you.' Sorry for the confusion

    Carry on
     
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  13. William_Navidson

    William_Navidson Pooh-Bah (1,557) May 1, 2015 Pennsylvania
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    Thank you for clarifying this portion of your comment; however, the notion of "spending within one's means" certainly is not a direct answer to the problems pointed out in the article that I've summarized a few times. Not quite sure what the point of that non sequitur was...

    "Wealth inequality is at an all time, consumer debt is skyrocketing, and wages are stagnant"

    "Yes, millenials need to stop buying their damn avocado toast to address those problems!!!!"
     
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  14. oldbean

    oldbean Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2005 Massachusetts

    Factually, you're wrong.
     
  15. 7irondave

    7irondave Pooh-Bah (1,918) Jun 22, 2016 Massachusetts
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    Maybe it's just in my small little corner of the economy then. The pool for available employees is the smallest it's been in a long time. Anybody that's halfway decent and wants to work can work and has options where he/she wants to go.

    I didn't realize that looking for a new job at one of over 150 breweries (as of 2017) in Massachusetts was so difficult.

    Have a good night ladies and gents:beer:
     
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  16. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    “Don’t live above your means” is good, albeit simplistic advice. But if you read the article - then in short it illustrates that in many cases people’s means don’t even cover the basics / bottom tier.

    Also looking at your username - maybe you’re just an avid golfer. But if you are a unionized iron worker then you may be fortunate enough to have a different perspective than many others
     
  17. 9percenthurdle

    9percenthurdle Aspirant (278) Sep 6, 2018 Massachusetts

    Then present facts saying otherwise....

    Unemployment at 50-year lows coupled with more job openings than people seeking jobs (per JOLTS) and the lowest jobless claims in almost 50 years support his anecdotal statement (as does wage growth and sentiment surveys).
     
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  18. anfield86

    anfield86 Pooh-Bah (2,606) Nov 21, 2006 New Jersey
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    Cite your sources, then.
     
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  19. Dmbphoenix

    Dmbphoenix Savant (1,168) May 17, 2012 New York
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    never thought I’d see EBITDA on BA. That was sobering.
     
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  20. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    It could be an acronym for a New England IPA. :wink:
     
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