Oregon Beer News (2020)

Discussion in 'Northwest' started by weaverr, Jan 3, 2020.

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  1. weaverr

    weaverr Zealot (729) Jun 10, 2008 California

    Clearly the $20-24 4/pack price point is viable and acceptable to a lot of consumers, otherwise it wouldn't be the standard for Hazy/DDH IPAs. I rarely ever buy those. I agree that Shelton Bros priced The Alchemist beers correctly, it's just at a price point that is pushing arbitrary boundaries for me.

    Also I think Alesong beers are worth $15 for a 500 mL. I never claimed any of my reasoning made sense.
     
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  2. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    I'm with you on this completely. If you're going to compare Alchemist prices to those beers, then for me this would be a no brainer. Even if they were just the same price, I would have no problem deciding which beer I was going to purchase (it would be HT and FB every time).

    Frankly, I'm always puzzled that there continues to be a pretty decent demand for the beers you listed. I've yet to be wowed by anything I've had from those breweries (though some of the beers I had were pretty good), and the price point is ridiculous (at least it is in this market).

    That being said, I'm looking at this strictly from the standpoint of a PDX craft beer consumer. I like changing things up as much as possible when I buy beer, but everything else being equal, I'm always going to buy a locally made product. $20 a 4 pack isn't a deal breaker for me, but it tends to be a bit more than I want to spend, especially if I don't have to. IMHO, there are a number of cheaper local options that I enjoy just as much as HT and FB. Given those options and my palate, I can't see any reason to buy any HT or FB this time around.
     
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  3. ppilot

    ppilot Zealot (522) Jul 17, 2009 Oregon

    I would strongly disagree with Cellarmaker being unimpressive. Their IPA that reached Portland a couple weeks ago is absolutely fantastic as is most of their beers. When I went to their tap room in San Francisco a couple years ago, I am was pretty blown away by how good everything they did was. In comparison, none of the breweries I went to on February visit to San Diego were up at their level. I would 100% agree on the rest of breweries you mentioned.
     
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  4. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Made a slight edit, but I agree totally. I've liked Heady every time I've had it. I don't think I've ever had Focal. If they popped up in town, would I buy a 4-pack of each, for science? Yes. After, however, that initial buy, how much more would I buy? I can't answer, with any certainty. I suspect not often, but maybe once every few months? And, if Barley Browns hits Bham, that's more competition for my non-local dollar, that would not likely fall in Vermonts favor.

    SHRUG. YMMV.
     
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  5. dphi

    dphi Zealot (534) Apr 14, 2013 Oregon

    Judging by how long some of those cans sit on shelves, I don't know that the demand is super high for most of them at the current price point. I'm glad that Day One brings stuff up from these breweries though, I usually pass at the prices they're sold at but every once in a while there's a beer I've heard good things about and splurge on a can.
     
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  6. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    LOL! I shouldn't have made such a broad sweeping assertion, as that's the one brewery who's beer I haven't tried yet (have read about it). And in fairness, I have enjoyed some of the beers I've tried from some of the other breweries @shelby415 mentioned. I just didn't think they were as good as HT or FB, and nowhere worth the price of admission.
     
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  7. derftron

    derftron Pooh-Bah (1,663) Feb 8, 2012 Oregon
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    I visited cellarmaker last year while in SF. They are very very good at making beer
     
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  8. derftron

    derftron Pooh-Bah (1,663) Feb 8, 2012 Oregon
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    In other OR beer news, I saw that Block 15 has started their own distribution company that will also distribute beer from DeGarde and coffee from a local bean roaster in Corvallis.
     
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  9. shelby415

    shelby415 Pooh-Bah (2,098) Oct 10, 2011 Oregon
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    Cellarmaker does makes good beer, I just wish I knew why it had to be $7 a can up here. It's not the cheapest beer in the Bay Area, but it's nothing like that. Makes one wonder what Great Notion is selling for out of state.

    Back to Oregon beer, though, that new Block 15 distro looks promising. Interesting that De Garde mentioned being glad to get their beer back in regular rotation.
     
    #149 shelby415, Apr 16, 2020
  10. ppilot

    ppilot Zealot (522) Jul 17, 2009 Oregon

    Their most recent IPA released up here was only $5 and I highly recommend grabbing a can. Now will I buy it multiple times? Probably not as I prefer to support local as much as possible during this time.
     
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  11. dphi

    dphi Zealot (534) Apr 14, 2013 Oregon

    A lot of the Day One stuff is priced like that, and I've seen prices on GN cans in CA anywhere from $7-10.
     
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  12. 7thSeal

    7thSeal Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2020 Oregon

    Old news. Posted on this very thread just yesterday: :slight_smile:
     
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  13. vurt

    vurt Grand Pooh-Bah (4,504) Apr 11, 2004 Oregon
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    Blarg. You're right. I skimmed right over it in the midst of all the Cellarmaker/Alchemist articles.

    My bad. Hat tip to @derftron for breaking the news.
     
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  14. jakecattleco

    jakecattleco Grand Pooh-Bah (3,749) Sep 3, 2008 California
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    Grabbed 4pk of Mandela for $24 at local grocery store chain, passed on likely diabetes-inducing double fudge brownie stout concoction at $8/can.
     
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  15. derftron

    derftron Pooh-Bah (1,663) Feb 8, 2012 Oregon
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    no i think you posted it first lol.

    My BA journalist credentials are in danger of getting yanked
     
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  16. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Stopped by this morning and they still had 4 packs of both sitting out on the counter. I confess I chuckled a bit, as the 4 pack holder mentions these beers must be kept cold at all times. Hopefully that's not entirely accurate.
     
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  17. mindtrip2012

    mindtrip2012 Devotee (392) Sep 25, 2014 North Dakota
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    This might be the wrong forum, but is Pelican Mother of All Storms brewery only? Or is it sent to distro and available in stores as well?
     
    #157 mindtrip2012, Apr 16, 2020
  18. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    It gets into distro, and it's not uncommon for it to sit around for a bit.
     
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  19. derftron

    derftron Pooh-Bah (1,663) Feb 8, 2012 Oregon
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    haha, yeah that is an issue with johns. fortunately they keep the store pretty brisk and they have that back cooler that they keep the good stuff in. the cans i bought were on the counter but felt pretty cold
     
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  20. derftron

    derftron Pooh-Bah (1,663) Feb 8, 2012 Oregon
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    its pretty available and easy to find around PDX. even vintages can be procured off the shelf if you know where to look
     
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