Traders Backing Out Of Agreed Trades

this right here is one of the reasons i'm feeling harassed. did you ever stop and think maybe he's just trying to get his mind off things by posting. these are mostly pipe dream trades. I didn't complete any of them nor did I get any replies, aside from a friend asking me to save the Antidoot for him for when he returns from Italy next year. at this point this is stalking. I've offered to complete the trade, idk what else you're looking for here. if this continues I will be reporting you. have a nice day.

 

It got taken down because it wasn't allowed. In a time like this people barter, humans have been doing it for centuries, I've been making it at work so i figured maybe some people value that more than their local beers, Iv'e also been giving bottles away in any trades i have done.

Nice to see your stalking me on BA, i love you too

 

that is his style, over complicate everything then cry wolf

 

So even though you’re not able to trade you are still looking to trade but only if you get a massive win?

I guess it was kismet that you two were to meet.

 

not at all, it would be explained that this was for the future. I was assuming if I did get a reply it would probably be international which is difficult right now anyway.

 

You should have never opened this thread, like the rest of us grown adults when we fail to get to the point of locking down a trade. On to the next, live and let live, bygones be bygones, and move the fuck on.

 

Yes and I stand by it after hearing both your and @Skrip 's explanation. You both admit you did not have a trade set up in the feedback system, nor did you exchange addresses/arrange IP delivery. 2 key steps missed to finalize a trade. Then after negotiations and never arriving to a final deal along with some personal issues for one of the traders it seems the deal was called off. You saw the deal as a done deal because you were getting a bucket list bottle for something you did not value (even called it wasted money in another post since deleted). This could have also played into @Skrip 's decision to not finalize the deal. Then you wrote a passive aggressive poll and a dissertation post that even foxnews would be proud of the slant placed on it. Ultimately what was your goal of your initial post? To drum up pity that you had an "unagreed upon" "agreed upon" trade for a "bucket list" bottle that you are no longer going to get? To put someone on blast to revive a deal that had gone bad in their mind to get what you want?

You often say you worded something incorrectly or didn't mean it how you said it. Try proofing what you write or looking at things from your audience's point of view. If you apply this to trading I think you will be more successful. A successful trade is one where both sides feel like they are winning. In some long standing BIF groups "winning a trade" is sending the side of the trade that blows the other party away.

Just some food for thought take it or leave it.

 

Most of us probably assume if you are trading for lambic, you can afford to buy a bottle or 2 of something and not be broke after. I have gone to releases and bought a bottle or 2 extra hoping to trade them.

You are in the wrong hobby if you can’t afford this risk. If the bottles are worth the trade, then someone else will do the same trade (Most likely).

If $50 makes you question your financial situation, go back to drinking local stuff and shelfies.

 

At the very least man, this does come across a little sketchy. If you read any of the the BT threads (not saying you are one), the classic move is get something done, then post other stuff to try to get a better trade.

hope you are doing better in working through your issues. Stay safe out there

 

Am I missing something though? Fou is not listed FT in any of those postings and that is the bottle that was supposedly FT here... although both parties admit a trade was never finalized.

 

as someone living in NJ also, it’s a crazy and scary time. My girlfriend is a nurse and is very careful about what we bring into the house. His situation may be even worse than mine. I know lambic boxes are not being shipped right now. He could have had a etre/biab box with fou coming and doesn’t know when it will be here now.

it seems that he was saying it’s an unknown amount of time until things will be normal again.

I don’t love that he asked for a specific bottle but these are unprecedented times and beer is not the most important thing by far.

 

I totally agree with you if I was trying to trade away what I was offering him but I was not.

 

I think his argument was that he was saying no boxes in to his house while still trading. Not the best look but makes sense if he is trying to lock down stuff for the future internationally. He just knows he can’t do the Fou trade right now.

 

exactly. I didn't think I needed to explain myself and for that I am sorry.

 

@Skrip the only thing I’m still questioning here that no ones addressed, and I don’t think you have either....you do have, and have given feedback on trades as recently as this past weekend. I find it hard to believe that this is a trade that happened awhile ago and you both are just now leaving feedback...same thing happened end of March?

if your not accepting boxes right now for whatever reason (I’m guessing this pandemic but then why not just say that), then why two recent trades with feedback? If this is your excuse as to backing out of a verbal trade agreement...then am I missing something...please explain?

 

I had a couple backed trades that I had sent to my in-laws, yes that is true. sorry I missed that part. also I never said I was backing out, after all of this i even offered to send him the bottle for nothing return.

 

Honestly, I don't see how that's anyone's business.

This is exactly the kind of crap that Skrip rightfully protested about early on. Not only is it harassment on the OP's part, but he is recruiting others to join in and amplify this harassment by the myriad suggestions he's raised. And worse, he's even guilted others, including the person he is falsely accusing of backing out, into giving him more for nothing. The sort of charity he has heavily endorsed in past trading threads, particularly when it is to his benefit.

 

thank you