Need feedback on this situation

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by Jag237, Apr 20, 2020.

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  1. pwdbyhops

    pwdbyhops Pundit (793) Apr 1, 2015 Ohio
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    Because the other trader did not send the correct bottle the second time, this may open up an opportunity for OP to request the Hydra he originally wanted. Should the OP call the other trader out based on this additional information? I suppose it wouldn't do any harm to at least mention it.
     
  2. MattOC

    MattOC Pooh-Bah (2,100) Jan 13, 2013 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Not about the “opportunity to request” the HH he originally wanted, it’s about getting it since that was the basis of the original trade.

    The person in question, since he isn’t being outed yet, has plenty per his own words from this past Saturday: “Hydra is good, but it's not trading that high due to the amount currently in distro. I mean my local pizza parlor just got several cases and had 6pp limit yesterday so I have a LOT of extra and I know several spots with cases still sitting.”

    He should have no problem replacing that HH and then some.

    OP @Jag237 , I know you’ve been asked a couple of times, but if you wouldn’t mind sharing:

    -what the original 2:2 trade was?
    -what was the replacement bottle supposed to be?
    -what were the two bottles that actually arrived in the replacement box?
     
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  3. Rustytacos

    Rustytacos Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2018 California
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  4. Jag237

    Jag237 Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2014 Virginia
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    The original trade was a Veil Maple/Bourbon and AB/Bourbon Amun Ra for a Hypersmash Hydra and Horus Ruffle the Feathers. The replacement was supposed to be a Millennialistic Falcon(which was in the box) and a Cryopreservation. I instead got a Concentrated Solution that happened to be leaking. When I reached out to mention receiving the wrong bottle he said he was too busy and his assistant had packed the box.
     
  5. MattOC

    MattOC Pooh-Bah (2,100) Jan 13, 2013 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Thank you. Again, sorry.

    It’s your move to make, but given that the trade system was used and I see you haven’t left feedback yet, this could definitely be escalated to a Bad Trader thread with all the details you’ve provided.

    Mods will probably like to take a look and or get more info, but seems obvious to me.
    @John_M @dmbforever
     
  6. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    And did he apologize? Ask if you were OK with this? Offer to make it right?

    You should be demanding he send you the original deal or a deal you approve of. If there is any more pushback, delay or bottles not received intact, you need to name them as a bad trader and leave feedback accordingly. The fact that one box disappeared and one bottle leaked cant be a coincidence, especially since he says an assistant packed it.
     
  7. Jag237

    Jag237 Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2014 Virginia
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    He did apologize but another member brought it to my attention that in another thread he was bragging about have a lot of extra bottles of what was supposed to be in the original lost box. While he did offer to make it right he made no mention of having these bottles to me.
     
  8. Bhubbard34

    Bhubbard34 Pooh-Bah (2,585) Mar 4, 2016 Pennsylvania
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Quit beating around the bush in these threads.... trader A had a box “lost.” Trader A then promised another bottle instead. Trader A then sent a diff bottle, as the replacement bottle he promised. That bottle was leaking. Trader A is also lying that he can’t replace original “lost” bottle because he’s bragging how many he still has. THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF A BAD TRADER! JUST CALL THESE TURDS OUT ALREADY AND GET THEM OFF THE SITE
     
  9. Rustytacos

    Rustytacos Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2018 California
    Trader

    @Jag237
    So you’ve asked for advice/feedback and have received it. The consensus is that you start a bad trader thread or at minimum call him out here on this thread. Let him state his side of the story and let’s figure this out for you. Most of here already now who the bad trader is so it’s not a secret. Usually what happens is that the trader will pony up the goods and make it right since it’s all out in the open.
     
  10. Jag237

    Jag237 Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2014 Virginia
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    I reached out to him after having more info brought to light so I was just giving him a chance to respond before I said anything publicly.
     
  11. Stevedore

    Stevedore Grand Pooh-Bah (5,096) Nov 16, 2012 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Agree with the above. At minimum, it shows that this guy isn't taking it seriously enough to be considered in good standing - not sending an identical replacement with documented claims of multiple extra identical bottles, having someone else (assistant) replace and pack a second box, two damaged/lost boxes, etc.. there's nothing good about this.
     
  12. UcDru

    UcDru Maven (1,363) Aug 15, 2013 Ohio
    Trader

    Context clues are fairly obvious here who the trader is. A quick search of his content shows he A) is bragging about the excess amount of the beer he acquired in question here and availability of it
    B) seems like a bit of an asshole to put it lightly.

    It's been said previously but it is his responsibility to get the trade from his door to yours if something happened in-between he must make it right none of that is your fault. If you are OK with a substitute beer that is your prerogative and for you to decide. From what I see this transaction was not acceptable in your eyes and you should not compromise.
     
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  13. MattOC

    MattOC Pooh-Bah (2,100) Jan 13, 2013 Massachusetts
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    FTFY.
     
  14. Jag237

    Jag237 Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2014 Virginia
    Trader

    So it turns out he never actually had those extra Hydra bottles he was going on about.
     
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  15. MattOC

    MattOC Pooh-Bah (2,100) Jan 13, 2013 Massachusetts
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    Is that what he is now telling you? Because this has come up? Calling bs given the quote from him from another thread I provided above.

    This makes him look even worse as he agreed to a trade in which he never had the bottles.
     
  16. UcDru

    UcDru Maven (1,363) Aug 15, 2013 Ohio
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    Of course he didn't :rolling_eyes: . Is he willing to make it right?

    There is plenty of Hydra FT on the forum...

    If not, I think there is enough here to warrant a bad trader thread and I would advise you strongly to do so. A leaky bottle you didn't request by no means fulfills your trade request imo.
     
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  17. Jag237

    Jag237 Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2014 Virginia
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    "If that was that the one about the pizza place. I was just BS'n the guy to have some fun with him. If I had extra hydra I would have sent a replacement bottle right away"

    This was the response I got
     
  18. Fermented-nate

    Fermented-nate Zealot (649) Sep 15, 2013 California
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    Man, this person sounds like a real asshole. All talk, completely full of it, and they are ripping you off. This person cannot be trusted. Please call them out (we all know who it is). I thought he was just a douche before but now we know he is a liar and has no class on top of that. Protect the good traders on BA and lets kick this person out.
     
  19. UcDru

    UcDru Maven (1,363) Aug 15, 2013 Ohio
    Trader

    Is he going to send you an acceptable (in your mind not his) replacement for the hydra/leaky bottle you did not want? If not is he going to return your box?
    If not

    bad trader thread and be sure to leave relevant feedback.
     
  20. Jag237

    Jag237 Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2014 Virginia
    Trader

    He did offer to make it right so I guess my question is assuming he sends me the correct bottle that was supposed to be in the 2nd box what kind of feedback is deserved?
     
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