Trade Value Thread (2020)

How far off would I be offering a HF Abner 4 pack + Juicy for a harder-to-get SARA bottle like Much Appreciated? Would Abner + Vera Mae be reasonable?

 

My take is that anybody who had access to Fall of Umibozu could have got Blessed. Blessed I heard was the same price as Umibozu if you got it directly from Anchorage. However, in CA Blessed was marked up to $70. I passed and I'm sure not a lot of people were muling blessed at $70 but I'm sure people were still muling Umibozu at $35.

I wish I did try Blessed and based off the ratings it looks like a better beer. Anyone with the Blessed should get Umibozu 1:1 even given the availability of Blessed (pretty sure Umibozu) isn't seeing distro.

 

Thanks for your take on this, always appreciated.

 

Thoughts on a Umibozu & FO '20 package for '20 Barrel Aged Abraxas? Haven't traded for BAA, not sure if close or way off. Any advice would be appreciated, thanks BAs.

 

When you say FO '20 package, do you mean FO 2020 + prodigal physics?

If so, I think you would be close. However, you may get better traction if you switch the FO package for something like PCC.

 

Ah I see- had meant FO + Umibozu, 2 for 1. Think PCC + Umibozu would be closer? Or need to be 3:1.

 

Anyone know what Little Cottage BA stouts trade for? I don't see them trade that often and I like that they are small format. I have Side Project stuff I wanted to offer, but didn't know what a good offer was. If anyone knows trade value relative to Rare 15 units that would be helpful.

 

Anyone have a good sense of the value of dusty Wild Turkey bottles? I'm interested in trading for an 8/101 bottle from the mid-90s or earlier. I'm having a tough time gauging what these go for. I've got some good ammo I can trade: Neck & Neck b2, Coco Killa AF, Bourbon Caramel Delight, BAA '17, black magicks (silver, orange, white, aqua). Maybe this is moot anyway, since I never see WT bottles like this posted on this site...but I'd still appreciate any insight!

 

Probably depends on whether you're working with a whale hunter or fellow bourbon lover. Bourbon lovers tend to find and save (hoard?) the dusties over the flippers/traders. If you find a lover, they might be willing to trade you a bottle at a reasonable price, but you probably have to have something they want (beer/bourbon) - which, although obvious, is inherently I think a more curated list than your standard ISO/FT thread (whether that's beer or bourbon).

My guess - totally guessing - is anywhere from 50-100 in relative value, with a reasonable bet it'll be closer to that Rare15 valuation. I can't personally imagine paying more than Rare15 (unless i got it at MSRP or less), but then again I'm not a goofy-looking bird lover.

 

They have a small following and hype, yet it seems to stay localized. I've had a few and they're great. They shouldn't trade for a crazy amount though. I'd offer $4$ with some nice fruited side project or maybe you could get 2 or 3 bottles for a BA CSV, CV, BV, etc

 

Why guess? Unfortunately that's nowhere close in my understanding.

Age stated dusty turkey from the 90's (keep in mind that's a nearly 30 year old bottle now) easily goes for at least a few bills, and i don't think you'll realistically find anyone trading it on this site. Your best bet would probably be to find some bourbon groups on facebook, and i'd imagine they'd be looking for whiskey not beer. Good luck with the hunt.

 

Thanks! From what I've seen, those old WT bottles unfortunately go for quite a bit more...more like 250-500. But that's still quite a range, which is why I feel fairly clueless on these.

 

If you just want an age stated bottle, those are far more acquirable & can still be picked up as exports. 90's bottles are gonna be a much harder fight.

 

I have no doubt that some of the flippers and secondary salemen sell them for that. If you're looking at people on BA, though, I suspect you're more likely to find a bourbon enthusiast (perhaps one that also visits SB). IN which case, you may get lucky, and I suspect they may help you out.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but from the many relationships I've cultivated on this site over the years, this is my guess. As an example, I had someone offer me a bottle for essentially nothing. It was clear it was one of their most cherished bottles, though, and I wouldn't even consider asking them to part with it - even as a trade.

When bourbon crosses over on this site, you get a lot more of the two extremes, and less of the in between.

 

What about older Wild Turkey bottles make them so valuable? I was fortunate enough to score 3 bottles of Jim Beam from the 70's and 80's at a garage sale a couple years back for $20. Drank two (were excellent) and sitting on the one from 1973. Do older bottles of Beam hold value?

 

Older bottles were not only age stated, but often had older juice than the stated age, especially during this period. That's part of it.

Second, there's pretty much always something about the old juice before various expansions or changes of equipment (think of people's opinion of 2014 and before BCBS compared to after 2015).

Lastly, and this is just my opinion, there's probably something about it sitting and "aging." I don't have anything to back up this comment, but if beer changes, and bourbon changes after a bottle is open and more oxygen is left inside, why wouldn't it change (just more slowly) when a bottle is still sealed?

(Ok, last lastly - When you can't get something anymore, I think there's always at least some hype. They just don't make it like they used to.)

 

Yep, I agree with all this. I think it's a mix of the juice itself being older than it is in more recent bottlings, it being higher quality distillate, and then simply the rarity factor. There just aren't many bottles that are 30+ years old, and that alone will drive up the value.

 

Has BAA fallen a lot in value? It used to take 3+ quality BL beers to land one and these aren't well rated for BA BL beers.

 

Yes.

 

Any tho

Yes. In this case, ‘quality’ appears to be the major factor. BAA ‘17 and ‘18 appear to be held in much higher regard than ‘19 and ‘20 years.