COVID stupidity in MA

Discussion in 'New England' started by SunDevilBeer, Aug 12, 2020.

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  1. shane_stubbornbeauty

    shane_stubbornbeauty Aspirant (245) Sep 18, 2013 Connecticut

    CT does (since the "beginning" as well), trust me...it sucks.

     
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  2. NYR-Zuuuuc

    NYR-Zuuuuc Maven (1,351) Jan 1, 2013 Connecticut

    I could be wrong, but pretty sure that's not the case. If you read the reopening restrictions, it says in order to open food must be available, nowhere does it say people have to buy it. I have been to a few breweries since the re-opening too, and while food was available you were not required to buy it. Breweries are either misreading the rule or implementing their own policies to help out the food truck vendors. (which is fine, but I'm not going anywhere I am forced to buy anything.) Just my two cents.
     
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  3. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    That's a statewide restriction for outdoor events recently imposed. That's not specific to Brookfield.

    A really big ask.

    You want the state to go business to business approving their operations?

    They'll go to investigate if there's a complaint, but otherwise I can't see them doing this. I suppose if a business called THEM and requested them to come by and approve their operations that's one thing...but even that could turn into a shit show if too many businesses request this.
     
  4. YourDigitalGrave

    YourDigitalGrave Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2019 Massachusetts

    Oh. Their social media mentioned the Brookfield Board of Health so I thought it was something specific.

    This is more along the lines of what I was suggesting but it's probably not possible.
     
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  5. SunDevilBeer

    SunDevilBeer Pooh-Bah (1,945) May 9, 2003 Massachusetts
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    Just found out my kids are going back to school on a hybrid plan (1/2 time in-school, half home/virtual).

    Perhaps if they were served nachos, everyone could attend school full time?
     
  6. LakesideBrewing

    LakesideBrewing Zealot (604) Dec 1, 2013 Massachusetts
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    As long as the kids order the nachos as soon as they enter the class, they’ll be good.
     
  7. SunDevilBeer

    SunDevilBeer Pooh-Bah (1,945) May 9, 2003 Massachusetts
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    I should add that the school will be socially distanced & everyone in masks. But damn those cheese sticks will improve everything dramatically! Certainly better than adults doing the same outdoors at a brewery taproom.
     
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  8. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    The nachos have to be prepared on site.

    If they’re pre-packaged that won’t work. Recent data from the CDC suggests that pre-packaged food served at restaurants and breweries can cause a 25% increase in Covid transmission. That number climbs to 50% if no food is served at all.

    I’d sooner do body shots off a random college student in Florida at a bar before I’d drink a local draft outside by myself at a brewery in MA without ordering food prepared on site first.
     
  9. thedaveofbeer

    thedaveofbeer Savant (1,169) Mar 25, 2016 Massachusetts
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    I only have one question- Black Olives on the nachos or not?
     
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  10. kinopio

    kinopio Savant (1,037) Apr 30, 2009 Massachusetts

    Black olives on nachos?! Haven’t the kids been through enough?
     
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  11. thedaveofbeer

    thedaveofbeer Savant (1,169) Mar 25, 2016 Massachusetts
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    oh-Just to be clear- I am definitely not a fan of black olives in any circumstance. I am just making sure our fellow BA is well in the head.
     
  12. bostonwolf

    bostonwolf Zealot (656) Jan 20, 2015 Massachusetts

    When the state auditors ask them to show the food item in each bill the brewery tallies, it might not go so well for them
     
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  13. SunDevilBeer

    SunDevilBeer Pooh-Bah (1,945) May 9, 2003 Massachusetts
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    Spending $ to actually enforce this extremely dumb idea is one of the worst ideas I’ve heard...in like a week. Especially when the the state is going to have a $B shortfall.

    Soend the $ on something that’s actually useful - like more quick saliva tests & more contact tracers (which were slashed last month). Or maybe just shut down indoor dining, which is much more dangerous & costs the state nothing.
     
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  14. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I was a HUGE proponent of not having indoor dining open.

    But I'm having second thoughts about how dangerous it is, at least given the capacity limits indoors.

    It's been two months now and cases have flat lined. 8 weeks is plenty of time for Covid to spread (I've always hated it when people said, "Oh, two weeks have gone by, we're ok!").

    Takes longer than two weeks to see how it plays out, maybe 4-6, but 8 is a fairly long time.
     
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  15. RKP1967

    RKP1967 Savant (1,150) Sep 26, 2010 Virginia

    Why are y'all so anti-food? Are you all supermodels?
     
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  16. Newport_beerguy

    Newport_beerguy Pooh-Bah (1,860) Feb 24, 2011 Rhode Island
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    Sometimes it's just nice to have a drink, y'know?

    If the baseline is buying food in addition to beers, that may mean a budget-conscious person who would stop by a given brewery once/week will only go once every 2 weeks. Just one more thing for a small business to overcome when we should be making it as desirable as possible for people to visit.

    Fortunately here in RI there is no food order like MA and the breweries can invite food trucks at their leisure to accommodate hungry patrons, but at least each person can make that decision and aren't force-fed.
     
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  17. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Pooh-Bah (2,193) Mar 29, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Wait until schools open and see if we can clear that potential surge in cases before making any decisions on a broader opening. If we can get into the second half of September without a spike, then I'm also in favor of a broader opening, with masks and distancing still strictly enforced.
     
  18. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    I'm not super familiar with exactly what's been happening in MA, but indoor dining has been green lit for 8 weeks and there's no spikes? And is there any data on whether restaurants are operating at (their newly limited) capacity, or if people are still shying away?
     
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  19. dbphoto04

    dbphoto04 Aspirant (290) Nov 22, 2015 Massachusetts

    It’s probably a bit of both. I know the 99 restaurant we drive by everyday usually has a ton of cars out front and no one is dining outside so I assume they are inside. And then there are people like my wife and I who won’t eat indoors right now.
     
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  20. Stormfield

    Stormfield Savant (1,065) Feb 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    The "strictly enforced" bit is key. I assume there are places that are more serious about it than others. Unfortunately, I have not been anywhere where distancing and mask wearing have been anywhere near strictly enforced. I won't eat inside anywhere--I've done outdoor seating, but only a couple of times. And what I've seen even there is not encouraging. I would say most people seem to be pretty good about wearing masks, etc., but I have seen far too many hardos strutting around maskless. I even saw a guy at a liquor store walking around with a big grin on his face like he was hot shit because he didn't have a mask on. Not one employee or customer said a thing to the guy. And sadly, he didn't look like the type of guy who should be talking chances with his health.
     
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