Trade Value Thread (2020)

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  1. spersichilli

    spersichilli Initiate (0) Apr 26, 2018 California
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    I don't think any of those are super valuable, I'd be surprised if you could close a 24:1 with any of your listed ISOs. The 3 you listed are upper echelon, basically some of the most valuable beers in existence
     
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  2. Slack

    Slack Pooh-Bah (2,018) Feb 14, 2012 Virginia
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    This is probably close but having previously attempted to trade for bourbon, I have consistently found that the bourbon tax is much steeper than one thinks. It appears that most people want cash and they are more willing to sell bourbon at secondary market values or below before trading. Tangentially related, I recently saw a snapshot of the secondary market on FB and I was amazed how much of an up charge people are asking/getting for something like basic Weller or EHT. More so, it would seem that liquor store owners are now doing this for profit. Fun fact, people line up at VA ABC stores for said bottles.
     
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  3. flat_lander

    flat_lander Pooh-Bah (2,490) May 11, 2016 Illinois
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Thoughts on Coex Blauw for Umibozu? I'm on Coex side.
     
  4. brikelly

    brikelly Pundit (781) Apr 11, 2010 Massachusetts

    Thanks for the feedback! What if I added the following to the list, do you think that would close one of them?

    2007 Lou Pepe Kriek
    2018 Fou Foune
    2010 3F Schaerbeekse Kriek
     
  5. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I don't know the specific values of the beers you mentioned, but the 2007 LPK and 2010 Schaerbeek Kriek helps a lot.
     
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  6. The_Gingerbeard_man

    The_Gingerbeard_man Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2019 Washington
    Trader

    New to trading so not sure the value of these and was looking for a couple bottles of one or more of these three:
    1. Olde Mecklenburg Mecktoberfest
    2. New Glarus Staghorn Oktoberfest
    3. Jack’s Abby Copper Legend

    I have some things to trade but not sure if any are enough value to get a trade done and figured I’d ask here before putting out a trade request. I made a rough list of what I have below. Thank you for any feedback

    1. 2019 Bottle Logic Arcane Rituals x1
    2. 2019 Bottle Logic Darkstar November x1
    3. 2019 Bottle Logic Layers of Influence x1
    4. 2019 Adroit Theory Shadows Settle x1
    5. 2019 Adroit Theory Blvck Celebration
    6. 2019 Adroit Theory All I See Is Carrion x1
    7. 2019 Adroit Theory Therapy Sessions x1
    8. 2019 Adroit Theory Therapy Sessions Apple Brandy Variant x1
    9. 2019 Adroit Theory Coconut Variant x1
    10. 2017 Fremont Barrel-Aged B-Bomb x1
    11. 2019 Fremont Barrel-Aged B-Bomb x1
    12. 2019 Fremont Barrel-Aged B-Bomb Coconut Edition x1
    13. 2019 Fremont Barrel-Aged B-Bomb Coffee and Cinnamon Edition x1
    14. 2019 Fremont Barrel-Aged Darkstar x1
    15. 2019 Fremont Barrel-Aged Maple Darkstar x1
    16. 2019 Fremont The Rusty Nail x1
    17. 2019 Jackie O’s Middle of Nowhere x1
    18. 2019 Jackie O’s Dark Apparition x1
    19. 2019 Jackie O’s Skipping Stone x1
    20. 2019 Alesong Rhino Suit x1
    21. 2019 Epic Big Bad Baptist x1
    22. 2019 Epic Quintuple Baptist x2
    23. 20?? Avery Mephistopheles Stout x1
    24. 2019 Firestone Walker Parabola x2
    25. 2014 Firestone Walker Sucaba x1
    26. 2019 Firestone Walker Sucaba x2
    27. 2018 Firestone Walker Velvet Merkin x2
    28. 2019 Firestone Walker Mole Merkin x1
    29. 2017 Firestone Walker Bravo x1
    30. 2017 Firestone Walker Helldorado x1
    31. 2019 Firestone Walker Kreiky Bones
    32. 2018 Founders Canadian Breakfast Stout x1
    33. 2019 Founders Canadian Breakfast Stout x4
    34. 2019 Founders Kentucky Breakfast Stout x4
    35. 2019 Founders Dirty Bastard x1
    36. 2019 Founders Backwoods Bastard x1
    37. 2020 Founders Imperial Stout x5
    38. 2019 Prairie Christmas Bomb x1
    39. 2019 Prairie Bomb x1
    40. 2019 Prairie Noir x1
    41. 2018 Goose Island BCBS x1
    42. 2019 Goose Island BCBS x1
    43. 2019 Ex Novo Nevermore x1
    44. 2019 Ex Novo Kill The Sun x1
    45. 2019 Ex Novo Kill The Sun Variant x1
    46. 2019 Gigantic Trevor Bruttenholm x1
    47. 2018 Gigantic Massive x1
    48. 2019 Gigantic Most Most Premium x1
    49. 2019 Fort George Sign of the Wolf x1
    50. 2019 Fort George Matryoshka x1
    51. 2019 Deschutes Mirror Mirror x1
    52. 2019 Deschutes The Abyss Port x1
    53. 2019 Deschutes The Abyss Old World x1
    54. 2019 Deschutes The Abyss x1
    55. 2019 Everybody’s Brewing Uncle Stepdad x2
    56. 2019 Pelican Mother of All Storms x2
    57. 2019 Pelican Captain of the Coast x1
    58. 2019 Anchorage Brewing Endless Ending x1
    59. 2019 Anchorage Brewing Chaos x1
    60. 2019 Cycle Brewing BA Maple BW
    61. 2019 Cycle Brewing BA Baltic Porter
    62. 2019 Perennial Abraxas
    63. 2019 Perennial Abraxas Vanilla
    64. 2019 Hubbard’s Cave El Zacaton x1
    65. 2019 Hubbard’s Cave Pot de Creme x1
    66. 2019 Sierra Nevada Trip in the Woods Vintage Bigfoot
    67. 2019 Pfriem BB Imperial Stout x1
    68. 2019 Pfriem Maple Barrel Porter
    69. 2019 Pfriem Bourbon Barrel Imperial Brown
    70. 2019 Silver City Old Scrooge x1
    71. 2019 Silver City Winter Ale x1
    72. 2019 Hoppin’ Frog Gavel Slammer x1
    73. 2019 Hoppin’ Frog Frogichlaus x1
    74. 2019 Hair of the Dog DoggieClaws x1
    75. 2019 Hair of The Dog Maja x1
    76. 2019 Hair of The Dog Cherry Fred From The Wood x1
    77. 2020 Bourbon Fred From The Stone x1
    78. 2019 Ballast Point High West Victory at Sea x1
    79. 2019 Backwoods Mainline x1
    80. 2019 Wynbridge BB Imperial Stout x1
    81. 2019 Zipline The Stout x1
    82. 2019 Zipline Cherry Quad
    83. 2019 St Bernadus Christmas Ale x1
    84. 2019 10 Barrel Barreled x1
    85. 2019 River North Vicennial Father Time x1
    86. 2019 River North Vicennial God Complex x1
    87. 2019 River North Mr. Sandman x1
    88. 2019 River North BB Mr. Sandman x1
    89. 2017 Stone Fyodor x1
    90. 2019 Voodoo Brewery Big Black Voodoo Daddy x2
    91. 2019 Pipeworks Baked and Layered
    92. 2019 Barrier Brewing & 3 Sons Brewing Whose Kids Are These? x1
    93. 2013 Schloss Eggenberg Samichlaus x1
    94. 2019 Schloss Eggenberg Samichlaus x2
    95. 2019 Stillwater On Fleek
    96. 2019 Drake’s Santa’s Brass x1
     
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  7. flat_lander

    flat_lander Pooh-Bah (2,490) May 11, 2016 Illinois
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    You can definitely get that done. In fact, you could probably get a whole pile of your ISO beers for some of the Bottle Logic and Fremont you have, amongst several others. What you might have difficulty with is finding someone who can get 2 of those 3 beers in one trade as they may be completely different distro. New Glarus is WI only for sure. Jack's is MA and maybe a few other NE states, and not sure about Olde Meck footprint.

    Best of luck!
     
  8. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    One good thing to note is that Jack's Abbey recently did a drop in (I believe) several states, including Ohio. This should help @The_Gingerbeard_man .
     
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  9. The_Gingerbeard_man

    The_Gingerbeard_man Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2019 Washington
    Trader

    Thank you for the replies, they have been most helpful.
     
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  10. Bhubbard34

    Bhubbard34 Pooh-Bah (2,585) Mar 4, 2016 Pennsylvania
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    For what it’s worth, I sent my EHT Single Barrel and received an Asssassin 20’
    1:1

    Not sure on exact secondary values, but both sides were happy.
     
  11. Onerandombeer

    Onerandombeer Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2017 Illinois
    Trader


    That is a good metric for trade success. At the end of the day, if you want to drink something, the $ value is “secondary”

    try the veal!
     
  12. jts211

    jts211 Savant (1,109) Aug 5, 2018 Pennsylvania
    Trader

    Need some feedback on the value of Stagg Jr 2020 or 2019 in exchange for BL FO. Would the value of a vertical of BL FO, (1x of each '18,'19, and '20) be close on the value of 1x bottle of Stagg Jr '19 or '20? 3:1 ratio
     
  13. Leftofthedial

    Leftofthedial Savant (1,068) Nov 17, 2011 California
    Trader

    I think the FO side would be slightly lucky to make that happen. I’d say something like Hypermash + FO ‘18 may be more of a fair trade. Also keep in mind that there are 2 different 2019 Stagg Jr batches (b12 and b13). B12 is the one with 132.3 proof and trades a little higher than any of the more recent batches (b10 through b14)
     
  14. jts211

    jts211 Savant (1,109) Aug 5, 2018 Pennsylvania
    Trader

    Thanks for the feedback. Very helpful!
     
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  15. TurkeysDrinkBeer

    TurkeysDrinkBeer Savant (1,064) Sep 8, 2018 Virginia
    Society Trader

    Not sure of the value on Private Press considering this is the first release so a little help on this one would be appreciated guys.

    Anabasis B4 + Wild Thai Banana Macaroons for
    Private Press Beyond Forever + Life Is Round

    On the SP/NP side, am I over paying?
     
  16. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Are there any reports as to whether Brad's new beers are thicker than the ones he produced at JOs? BWs were never a "problem" from this standpoint, but I think if his stouts have the same consistency as those he produced at JOs, it's going to be hard for them to transcend the valuation (no matter how limited) that the highest JOs beers traded for (think Appervation B1, especially pre/at onset). (This is coming from someone that likes them, but recognizes how the beer community views consistency, and thicc stouts are correlated with value in today's "beer market".)

    If that's helpful.
     
  17. AlexIrigoyen

    AlexIrigoyen Zealot (635) Jun 3, 2016 Georgia
    Trader

    The limited reviews I've heard regarding his new stout is that it is not super thicc but it's great. So similar to the stuff he produced at JO's. I'm hoping that means they don't trade crazy high and I can get my hands on some without giving up an arm and a leg.
     
  18. sjguglielmo

    sjguglielmo Zealot (522) Aug 26, 2009 Minnesota
    Trader

    I think it's hard to tell at this moment. Not many trades have closed, so there isn't an established value. That said, the offer you listed seems generous. I'm a PP member and I'll have these bottles in about 2 weeks; I'd add a plus on my end for the two bottles you listed. If you're interested in chatting, shoot me a PM.
     
  19. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Agreed. If they aren't making black beers with stout goobers or heavy handed candy bar flavorings, we can count on accessibility relative to most modern stout whales. Unless they consistently keep things very limited while also attaining rave reviews for each release across the spectrum, and even then it would probably take a couple years to really build higher trade value.
     
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  20. Thirst_trappist

    Thirst_trappist Maven (1,420) Jan 18, 2016 Florida
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    Unfortunately it feels like part of the reason people got into private press....trade crazy high /value crazy high
     
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