Weihenstephan Festbier is underrated on BA scale

That’s what I’m talking about I want to have a bar I can get to get those beers I only read about.

 

https://www.brauhausschmitz.com/beer

I’d love to be sitting on a stool, big ass pretzel with mustard, and a big mug.

 

Long story short is that Weihenstephaner ratings suffer because they brew a pale weisn style Festbier.
Personally I prefer that style; however, the vast majority of BA raters prefer the amber märzen style so Weihenstephaner, and others like them, get lower ratings.

 

Wiesn.

Sorry, it's an affliction.

And "preference" be damned, once again. Don't f***ing rate one style (and it is a different style) to another. I review both when I get them and don't hold one style over the other.

Rant over.

 

I prefer to separate them as substyles for discussion, but I do review and rate them as one style.

"Märzenbier is full-bodied, rich, and toasty, with a moderately high alcohol content. Its color can be anywhere from pale gold to medium amber, but is typically some shade of copper. Like other dark lagers, the aroma is driven by malt, not hops. Best enjoyed by the half liter in a Bavarian beer garden." -- Dark Lagers: Lager - Märzen / Oktoberfest

In comparison with the darker, maltier, richer flavored beers (e.g. Ayinger and others), I rate the Weihenstephaner lower. That's just my preference as well as my "keeping style in mind."

 

Thanks for the correction, I misspelled it the first time and now it always autocorrects to the wrong spelling.

+1 on your rant. The two styles shouldn't be rated against each other, but we've been down the “rate to style” road before

 

Except they are the same style on this site; FWIW, not according to BJCP, where they have been separated.

 

A couple months ago a local-ish brewery rep came to my store and was hyping up their festbier super hard, like almost shamelessly. The rep proceeded to shit talk the Bitburger and Weihenstephaner Festbiers I had on the shelf.

I actually copped an attitude with him and pretty much laughed at him as politely as I could. Once I tried his brewery’s “festbier”, it was miles behind Weihestephaner. It sucks that some people/novices in the beer culture think it’s cool to shit on old world breweries. Those with any keen taste for lager know that Weihestephaner festbier was on-fuckin-point this year.

 

Yeah, I was going to post that I don't agree with them being "the same" style. To my palate they're very different -- at least Spaten Ur-Märzen from HB Fest. I've been proven wrong between Paulaner Märzen and their Wiesn in blind tasting.

@AlcahueteJ

 

I really want you to rat the brewery out, but I know that would be rotten.

 

Snitches get stitches. But I feel like I’ve mentioned this situation with more explicit details on another thread at some point... oh well!

 

Link?

I'm kidding -- I really don't need to know.

 

Fixed that...

 

That’s confusing.

I just look at them as two separate styles, because they are as you would drink them, they’re nowhere close to the same family. But they’re umbrellaed under an Oktoberfest label. Two beers, different beers, one label.

Ah, see above to MM post. Messed that up.

 

I would also note that the highest rated “Märzen/Oktoberfest” on this site is not only not an Oktoberfest, it’s also not a Munich brewery, nor is it even a German brewery, it’s also likely not even a true “Märzen” by German standards being 4.6% ABV (I realize the definition goes by OG, but I couldn’t find that information for this beer).

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1787/6583/

So I think it’s safe to say you can take the ratings for this “style” with a grain of salt. Preferably those grains of salt are on a lovely German pretzel.

 

An excellent festbier I try to have every year; I am disappointed that the label has changed from the classy nuns drinking the festbier at a picnic table laughing their hearts out to a generic label.

 

No, no, no -- not fixed for me, I want to hear from the folks that know beer -- not spin!

 

Maybe, but check the reviews -- how many are actually reviews of Augustiner Munich input under the wrong listing?

(Hard to believe there are only 23 reviews of that beer)

 

Not underrated by me. I'm on my 3rd 6pack.

 

I would be completely content if I could only drink Weihenstephaner beers for the rest of my life.