Bayernbiere Bought and Drunk (2020)

wrong brewery glass i know, a great beer though, ive always loved this one sitting in greifenklau after the walk up the hill and its decent in a bottle in sheffield too. not very hoppy, soft carbonation, just a really easy drinking frankische lagerbier

 

I think this is true around Bamberg and other places which have or have had a US army base, but not always the case in north Germany.

 

Not too many 'modern' American brewed WCIPA beers fit that description. Over the past few (10-ish) years the American brewed WCIPA beers have 'evolved' to be light in color with little in the way of caramel malt.

Now, there is an 'old school' WCIPA which will soon be seasonally released of Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale that is darker in color and with a notable caramel malt aspect. I sincerely hope this beer does not become discontinued but this beer is markedly different from more 'modern' WCIPA beers.

Cheers!

 

How about the UK bases in the North? I would pick up the British accent on radio ststions driving around Köln about 1998-99. It was from a British base. No American accent there.

Or am I missing something?

 

I figured that @jonb5 was suggesting that northern German accents have a more similar orthography to English than the Bavarian or Franconian dialects, and are therefore easier to master for an English native-speaker. It makes sense, since English comes from the area around Lower Saxony.

 

Could be. I would like his take on it.

Köln has its own dialect, it is not not in lower Saxony.

 

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From a linguistic point of view, the Platt Deutsch which originated in northern and western regions of Germany is closely related to English. In addition, cities like Hamburg and Hannover have historical links to Great Britain which predate the military being in Germany.

The English spoken by the locals in Bamberg, Würzburg, Gießen etc is definitely influenced by having had the US army in the cities for almost 70 years. People from places like Dortmund or Mönchengladbach which had British army bases would probably sound more English than American.

However, the British army has been out of these cities for quite a while now and American culture will always be more influential than British, which will inevitably lead to more and more Germans sounding American when they speak English.

Another factor would be many Germans spending a year in the US going to high school, meaning they pick up the accent.

 

FWIW I personally do not pick up much in the way of caramel in PtE.

Cheers!

 

Thanks for your take on it. Yes, I do know the House of Hannover having some influence in the UK over the years.

One thing that was explained to me 20+ years ago while living in Wiesbaden was a German's accent often depends on the instructor. A coworker had a British accent, and he said he had a British instructor for English. A Swedish colleague

I worked the many in Germany, whose accent was dependent on where they had a British or an American instructor.

 

I was entirely confused by what this conversation was about. I thought this was about English speakers trying to “go native” living in Germany as expats or military, rather than Germans trying to learn English.

I have been told my German has an Austrian tinge, having studied under Austrian teachers and living in Salzburg and Vienna. At the same time, my accent has never quite been able to fool the locals, much to my dismay when I order at a cafe and get an English response to my request!

 

My thinking was like yours. Things changed along the line.

 

Oops, looks like I might have misread the conversation. I thought you were talking about Germans who have learned English. When it comes to military veterans who have stayed on there’s definitely an English or American tinge that most never lose.

 

I was told the American accent was amusing. Something along the lines of how Americans view a Swede speaking English. Think of the Swedish Chef in the Muppets.

 

Texas Deutsch?

 

Not to bang my own drum, but I lived almost 20 years in Germany, my mother, wife and brother-in-law are all German. I lived in Hessen and Munich, my in-laws are from Bremen but now live in the Black Forrest, and I went to 7 years of school with Germans, I have heard almost all dialects and I am pretty good at telling you where someone is from.... this video was VERY weird. Bayerisch, American, Schwäbisch, Hessisch...she's a smorgasbord of German. The only thing missing was East German dialects, which is probably for the better...

 

What is the German version of y'all?

Prost!

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