What beer started the turbid/cloudy IPA trend?

HopHands has always been pretty hazy from what I remember. My first Tired Hands IPA I had in 2014, so I can’t say much about look before than but this was Pineal straight from the source in early 2014

 

No.

 

My two cents: Heady Topper is basically the beer that started the NE IPA craze, but it was never a hazy beer in the way we think of them today. It’s basically a WC IPA. Congress St. was the first genuine beer I remember people in Boston freaking out over because it looked like orange juice. Not sure if Julius or C St. was brewed first, but even when Trillium was real small w the one growler fill station in Fort Point that had bottles sometimes, it was more readily available than Tree House, so I think it was more widely known. At least, that was my experience.

 

Alchemist and Hill Farmstead have both been mentioned, and it is worth saying that both breweries used Conan yeast in their NEIPA back when those beers started the trend, first Alchemist in January 2004 when first batch of Heady was put on, and then HF when they opened for business.

Also, only fair to point out that the style NEIPA did not start in Ca. Unless there is a town called "New England" in Ca., that is.

 

Revisionist History.

 

A trend can be named for a place it was popularized rather than where it originated. The panama hat is an Ecuadorian creation that was popularized by men working on the panama canal. Just sayin

I have no idea about these beers. Never had any of them and I don't.particularly care for the style. Its an interesting discussion though

 

True, but that isn't the case here. Conan was being used at Burlingrton Beer Company/Greg Noonan since the mid 90's, and Kimmich brought that to the Alchemist

 

You're the one who said heady wasn't a neipa abd therefore was not the correct answer. If heady isnt the answer Nelson has to be.

 

I think it's likely Congress Street as the first true New England IPA...unless someone can produce any other pictures before 2013 showing otherwise.

That still doesn't look quite as turbid as the modern New England IPA, close though.

See the posts below...was Nelson turbid in 2004? Does anyone have any pictures of Nelson before 2013 showing it to be turbid?

Otherwise it's in the same boat as Heady, a hazy IPA but not a New England IPA.

Sounds like the answer here for what the first true turbid/orange juice-like IPA was, was Congress Street in 2013. Why else would the brewer be so surprised that he would consider dumping the batch due to its appearance? If it was done before and he was trying to emulate it, that would be considered a success, correct?

 

Oops correcting a brain fart, Noonan and Kimmich of course were Vermont Pub and Brewery, Not Burlington Beer Company, sorry about that. Timeline is correct,.

 

I don't recall... my memory is a little "hazy".

 

I read your original post and thought, "Burlington Beer Company existed back then? Did it close and reopen with new owners?"

Mine's a bit turbid...I don't know what that means.

 

The 'challenge' of using photographs for proof is:

• Lighting conditions will greatly influence how a given beer appears
• The background where the photo is taken can impact appearance
• There are some BAs who like to use tools like Photoshop to 'enhance' their photos
• etc.

I would suggest that using the verbiage of BA reviews as they detail the appearance of a given beer brand may be 'better'.

Cheers!

 

Sometime in 2014.

 

And that is exactly why I chose to use single quotes and utilized the verbiage of may:

"I would suggest that using the verbiage of BA reviews as they detail the appearance of a given beer brand may be 'better'."

Relying on photos (especially ones which may have been 'doctored') yields an imperfect solution and I accede that you have a point as regards a reviewers choice of words (e.g., one persons "hazy" could be another persons "cloudy" or "turbid" or "murky" or...).

I give you credit for starting this thread (I presume based upon my suggestion in the other thread). It sure seems that we are left with a quagmire here.

Regardless of the results of this poll, I am not buying into Heady Topper as being the answer to the question you posed in the OP.

Cheers!

 

Has to be Heady.

Not just the haze or turbidity talked about, but also the big juiciness.

still better than 99% of the beers it inspired/spawned. Kinda like black sabbath.