I really miss West Coast IPAs, especially on draft!

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  1. Donovanj

    Donovanj Devotee (371) Mar 21, 2018 Georgia

    It is really getting hard to find good IPAs that aren't hazy, jucy, citrusy and have decent bitterness.
    Besides a few old school brands like Sierra Nevada, Stone, Green Flash and Dogfish, breweries just aren't making hoppy bitter beers anymore. It is really rare to see any good WC style on draft. Even my local breweries/brewpubs make only NE style...
    I don't mind NE IPAs but when a pale ale is hoppier than any of the IPAs a brewery makes, it's a big turnoff.
    The other trend I really don't like are so many of these IPA's literally have less color and malt flavor than a lite beer.
    Come on Man!
     
  2. moysauce

    moysauce Pundit (947) Apr 16, 2014 Illinois
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    I always feel guilted into trying to new hype hazies coming out, but once you’ve had one you’ve had them all. Don’t get me wrong - I will never be upset having a NEIPA from a quality place like Tree House, Monkish, and the like, but nothing is more disappointing than getting a mediocre NEIPA.

    I’m almost always gonna take a dank, resinous, musty, bitter AF west coast IPA any day - a beer I can actually drink multiple of without feeling like I consumed a pint of ice cream.
     
  3. guzzleacoldone

    guzzleacoldone Pooh-Bah (1,898) Feb 3, 2007 Ohio
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    Totally agree. A good west coast IPA is my favorite style. But they're getting harder to find. I even bought one a few weeks ago that was billed as a west coast by the brewer but it was more hazy and sweet than it should've been. Luckily Fat Heads is plentiful in Ohio and they can usually be counted on to deliver the goods.
     
  4. eppCOS

    eppCOS Grand Pooh-Bah (4,570) Jun 27, 2015 Colorado
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    Try trading with some folks in NM, for Cumbre's Elevated IPA and/or Project Dank, both really good west coast bitter variants.
    And if you haven't tried SN's latest Dankful IPA, give that a whirl too. I felt like that beer tasted like 2010 in a good way. Cheers!
     
  5. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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  6. ESHBG

    ESHBG Pooh-Bah (2,099) Jul 30, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Not me, I don't really care for many WCIPAs anymore and if I am ever in the mood for one it's usually a one and done.

    Do you get Troegs? Their winter seasonal, Blizzard of Hops, may fit the bill for what you are looking for. I have had two already this season and outside of the color (it's on the lighter side) it hits all of the notes you mentioned.
     
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  7. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Worth noting anything from Comrade is worth seeking in trades too. Modus Hoperandi from Ska along with Juicy Banger from Station 26 are great packaged options as are the IPAs from Melvin.
     
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  8. Donovanj

    Donovanj Devotee (371) Mar 21, 2018 Georgia

    I will definitely try it the SN Dankful!
    Although the description and hop list seem more like a modern hybrid thant a true wc style: "Hops: Columbus, Chinook, Mosaic, Ekuanot, Nelson Sauvin, Zappa, Idaho 7" "...with berry and citrus flavors"

    I have noticed a similar trait among some newer breweries making what they call west coast style but using newer "NE style" juicy tropical hops. I think of these as more hybrids than true west coast style. But more likely I am just pining (pun intended) for some old school Cascade and other "C” hops (Centennial, Columbus, etc) with their piney, floral notes.
     
  9. DrStiffington

    DrStiffington Grand Pooh-Bah (3,740) Oct 27, 2010 New Jersey
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  10. Donovanj

    Donovanj Devotee (371) Mar 21, 2018 Georgia

    Besides Stone IPA, SNPA, Celebration etc., what are some other good old school (C hop) IPAs that are easily found?
     
  11. foundersasap

    foundersasap Maven (1,405) Feb 2, 2015 Michigan
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    Wish I could find Dankful, you can keep the haze, WC is my style!
     
  12. puck1225

    puck1225 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,585) Dec 22, 2013 Texas
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    The local brewery, Blackwater Draw, has had an exc West Coast IPA on draft and in cans recently. I have enjoyed it immensely!
     
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  13. hillind

    hillind Savant (1,007) Apr 24, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Founders Centennial, Racer 5, Troegs Perpetual are some others I see often. Don’t forget about Torpedo!
     
  14. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    I don’t think it’s hard at all, there are plenty around just not at sticker can small breweries, which may be a good or bad thing who knows. Most I thought of listed above but my personal favorite deschutes fresh squeezed. Not sure if you get them in your distro...we have 3 left from a six pack we purchased this week.

    Edit: sorry, just read your last post @Donovanj and I agree the “our take on a west coast ipa” from most NEIPA focused places do not do it for me. I’m with you there.
     
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  15. hillind

    hillind Savant (1,007) Apr 24, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Victory Hop Wallop will be out early in the new year. That’s an excellent old school IPA with some real nice bitterness.
     
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  16. morimech

    morimech Grand Pooh-Bah (3,803) Nov 6, 2006 Minnesota
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    There are not a lot of new ones coming down the line. Most new ones claiming to be WC IPA trends to the sweet hazy side with berry and fruit flavors. I am in the mindset if you stray from Cascade, Columbus, Centennial, I am put out. Hell, even throw in Chinook. But as long as I have access to Midwest IPA's like Masala Mama, Bell's Two Hearted, Founders Centennial, and Surly Furious, I will be happy.
     
  17. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Every now and then I catch Stone IPA on tap, well at least pre Covid. Fresh it’s simply an outstanding beer, I don’t think that’s even a debate.
     
  18. eppCOS

    eppCOS Grand Pooh-Bah (4,570) Jun 27, 2015 Colorado
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    True on MH and JB, bummer that Comrade doesn't really can though. A crowler can be a bit unwieldy for shipping. Then again, I haven't tried. Because I'm lazy. :grimacing::heavymetal::beers:
     
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  19. defunksta

    defunksta Grand Pooh-Bah (4,164) Jan 18, 2019 Wisconsin
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    Agree, that now it's sometimes hard to find a real West-coast IPA. Many of them claim to be, but few of them are. I find it actually more exclusive than the East-Coast Haze going on. Harder to match a true west-coast IPA. All of those IPAs you mentioned above are great in their own regard, but Stone IPA is the OG West-Coast, and comparing these IPAs to Stone should be the gold-standard.
     
  20. morimech

    morimech Grand Pooh-Bah (3,803) Nov 6, 2006 Minnesota
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    I listed them only as using PNW hops but using a unique Midwest malt bill. I agree with your Stone IPA response. Also Ballast Point Sculpin and Russian River Blind Pig.
     
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