galaxy IIPA recipe critique

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  1. mountsnow1010

    mountsnow1010 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2009 Vermont

    Yeah...I am thinking of using WLP090 for it's higher attenuation. we'll see, though!
     
  2. ditch

    ditch Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2009 Virginia

    I personally don't think 090 is good for IPA style beers. You need that WLP001 or 1056 ester. Though it is pretty clean, it really lets you hops "pop" using a yeast like 090 is not going to get you dryer than the dextrin content in your extract. Just pitch well, oxygenate, start low and raise the temp as it finishes. You can also add the sugar towards the end of fermentation (in primary) to keep everybody happy and motivated. Just my 2 cents! Cheers!
     
  3. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Almost every calculator I've seen underestimates (gives a higher) FG. Having said that, IIPA is one style that almost necessitates the use of simple sugars in lieu of some malt/extract...Barleywine might be another...IMHO. Hops almost need to be doubled also or you end up with a carmelly, sweet, underattenuated mess. Last recommendation/opinion, use more gypsum and yeast nutrient and a robust yeast.
     
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  4. mountsnow1010

    mountsnow1010 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2009 Vermont

    Huh. So you're suggesting I need at least a pound of hops for a 5-gallon batch? Where would you add them? This is all good to know because I still have time to get more Galaxy (I only have 8 oz at the moment).

    Thanks for the advice! I will definitely take all of this into consideration. I am going to try and isolate Conan tomorrow so depending on how that goes I may end up using that for fun...even though it is a much less clean yeast.
     
  5. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

     
  6. mountsnow1010

    mountsnow1010 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2009 Vermont

    I think you may have left out a response :wink:

    If I really need to double the hop content I probably won't be doing a Galaxy only IIPA, I really can't afford to have more shipped to me. I'll need to add some other hop that I can get at a reasonable price locally.
     
  7. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Guess I tried to cover too much territory on that rant...what I meant was that IIPAs tend to be heavy on the malt/body (part of the style) and light on the hops (relatively speaking compared to a single IPA). IMHO, when people try to up the gravity and hops they generally think it is linear...and it's not. I'd use a little more sugar (%) and a little more hops (%) in almost any IIPA.

    What's Conan? If it's a dreg...I'd wait on that until you could step it up.
     
  8. Patrick

    Patrick Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2007 Massachusetts
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    I use WLP090 exclusively for IPAs and DIPAs and couldn't be happier with the results. It flocc's a lot better and I don't have issues with the hops not "popping".
     
  9. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I'll tell you what I left out...reading your recipe in Hopville...sorry

    After reading it (finally), I would suggest Doubling your Bittering addition and making it a FWH (2 oz)...then take all your other additions (except the post-boil...double those) and use the remainder for dry-hopping.

    I do think your idea was a good one...to maybe blend with some other hops to stretch the Galaxies

    I've used WLP-060, but not the 090...can't help you there other than to say "make a huge starter for a IIPA"
     
  10. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,502) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I'm not doubting that, but I remember from when I used to brew extract, that most if not all of them would crash out around .018, or .020.. I think I got a blonde to go around .010 or so, but it started at like 40 points maybe.

    But I'll say.. to get the hops to pop and overcome the sweet mess, water profile and getting your yeast going is key.
     
  11. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Yes, extract tends to finish higher than mashed 2 row, but I don't know many all-grain brewers that won't use enough specialty grains to put it in the realm of light DME. Problem is, most extract brewers also load up on specialty grains (though steeped). If an all-grain brewer mashes low...say 148, and uses minimal specialty grains, then yes, there probably will be a noticeable difference in FG...provided he doesn't use a low-attenuating yeast.

    I hope that is defendable : )
     
  12. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,502) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I agree. You win. I win.
     
  13. mountsnow1010

    mountsnow1010 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2009 Vermont


    Thanks for all the help everyone. I took everyones recommendations into consideration and this is the final recipe: http://hopville.com/recipe/1664181
    Took advantage of some late boiling to increase hop utilization. We'll see how well that actually is calculated by hopville. I also picked up another oz of hops and split it between the FWH, 30m and flameout additions. I think 4 oz of galaxy to dry hop should be more than pungent enough, and I can't really afford to buy a bunch more!

    The only other addition I am making is adding 1 tsp Fermax 15 minutes to the end of the boil.

    Everything is going well at the moment, bringing it to a boil, which takes a while on my electric range. Might ask for a turkey fryer for xmas.

    Also, these hops smell so good. If the wort is any indication:
     
  14. mountsnow1010

    mountsnow1010 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2009 Vermont

    Oh, and I am going with the WLP090. Made a 2L/200g DME starter 22 hours ago with the anticipation of pitching in 2-3 hours from now (depending on how quickly I can get this to start boiling)!

    The starter was looking pretty good last night and was happily fizzing away when I woke up this morning. Fizzing has slowed a bit by now and the yeast has flocced a ton (though I am swirling to try and prevent that).
     
  15. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,326) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    Possibility - Do something clean early for the bittering and maximize your galaxy flavor as much as possible late :sunglasses:

    EDIT: I see you're already at boil... Honestly hoss, I think you'll have to send me a bottle to verify your results. Otherwise you'll just never really be sure :grinning:
     
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  16. mountsnow1010

    mountsnow1010 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2009 Vermont


    Too late! I did consider using something cleaner to bitter with but I decided that was really against the spirit of a single-hopped DIPA, especially considering how well Galaxy does double duty as a bittering and aromatic hop. I will be using 10oz total though, with 5 of those being a 7-day dry hop immediately before bottling, so I think I will be fine. The wort was actually pretty pungently bitter and floral, even with enough sugar in there to make it 1.073. I can only imagine what it'll taste like after drying out and being dry hopped.

    I'll consider sending a sample if I don't just drink it all straight out of the bottling bucket....!
     
  17. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,326) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    That sounds real tasty hoss! If you decide to send me a bottle, I'll send you a sample of my wares, just to balance things out... :sunglasses:
     
  18. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2009 New York

    not at all, it tasted great but I am sure others have had that happen in there experience
     
  19. mountsnow1010

    mountsnow1010 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2009 Vermont

    FWIW - I ended up using 5 oz dry hops and will be bottling later this week (been dry hopping since last Wednesday so either bottling tomorrow, thurs or friday depending on time. I took a small sample after 2 days of dryhopping...so delicious!
     
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  20. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2009 New York

    nice I love IPAS
     
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