What's your favorite Irish Dry Stout?

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  1. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    It's only in the early 1960s that nitro Guinness appeared. This is how they served Extra Stout before then:
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1361963753257000968

    Nitro Guinness wasn't an invention of publicans, but of someone at the Guinness brewery. If I weren't so lazy, I'd look up who the person was. It was an attempt to replicate the above method of serving without all the mess.
     
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  2. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    In the 1970s, most of Watney's beers contained 10-15% ullage. It's no wonder they had a shit reputation.

    Re-using returned beer was depressingly common in the UK in the 1950s and 1960s.
     
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  3. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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  4. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    Dry Stout was a term invented by Michael Jackson. The high attenuation of Guinness Extra Stout only appeared in the early 1950s. Before that, it was only about 75% apparent attenuation, rather than 85-90%.
     
  5. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    Casks with a very high degree of carbonation.

    Here's how Guinness Porter was served:

     
  6. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Epiphany.

    I guess I've always been "impolite." :wink:
     
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  7. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    You're trying to force me to get my lazy arse in gear and really look this up, aren't you? I refuse to rise to such an obvious provocation.
     
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  8. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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  9. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    And Heineken brew Lagunitas for the European market in Holland
     
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  10. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    When I first read about it, I thought back to a story about runaway kids I remember reading when I was a just a kid. Decades later, I was searching for something else and found it!
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    It was Schlitz boxcar, but at the time most US brewers used the same returnable/refillable bottle so most bars put the brown bottles in same case, regardless of brand - so those guys might have had a number of beers. (Though NC was hardly a beer mecca).

    It made me, also, think back on once getting a couple of cases of empties from a bar owned by a friend's family when I mis-planned a homebrew and didn't have enough bottles. Pretty sure I bought 3 cases, so I could just avoid the bottles with the cigarette butts in them.

    Soaking them, the cigarette smoke had been absorbed by the paper labels so the the first bath water batch stunk to high heavens. :nauseated_face:

    When put in that position I always say to myself, "Nah, not this time...let somebody else do it..." and 15 minutes later I find myself flipping pages in front of the beer library in the other room...

    Hmmm... Guinness credits Ash on their website
    https://www.guinness.com/en-us/our-craft/michael-ash/
    as do several of my Guinness books.
     
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  11. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    Left to right: clutch, brake accelerator.

    Could be wrong, mind. I've not driven for over forty years.
     
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  12. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    I know no-one else will do it. Or only do it half-arsed. So i can't resist three-quarter arsing it.
     
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  13. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    So same as U.S., just shifting with the left -- which would be awkward in the beginning... especially being right handed.
     
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  14. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Huh. Driving on the wrong side if the road, in a car with the steering wheel on the wrong side of the car, with a stick that I have to use my left hand. Chances of getting into an accident 100%.
     
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  15. snaotheus

    snaotheus Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,924) Oct 6, 2008 Washington
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    It was pretty weird, but surprisingly easy to adjust -- except for the "staying on the left side of the road" part of it. My wife and I found that it helped to chant "Stay left, stay left, stay left..." at intersections where I was turning.
     
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  16. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    You forgot the roundabouts. :astonished:
     
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  17. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    JC no shit , like the Griswolds Euro Vacation, he got stuck in a circle. Ya, well no.
     
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  18. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    I'm glad I only used public transport when I lived in Australia though I probably would have gotten the hang of it. Eventually.
     
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  19. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    They backwards too?
     
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  20. johnreggie

    johnreggie Devotee (340) May 28, 2018 New York

    For those in the Nassau county area of Long Island NY 1940’s brewery has a long running dry Irish Stout called Sinners Mass.I came upon this brewery while looking for an alternative to Blue Point after they sold their souls to InBev and turned to crap. Definitely a Guinness man for life, but Sinners Mass is excellence on the craft local level!
     
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