Day to day palate change?

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  1. TobyWan

    TobyWan Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2021

    Hi! Long time reader, first time posting. Here’s my question for the community:

    My beer preferences change seasonally, like I’m sure most do. In the fall I love a good pumpkin ale, and ale look forward to dark winter ales. I’m a big fan of IPA’s year round, but I have a strange issue; sometimes hops taste super citrusy and amazing, and sometimes just pure bitter awfulness. This can be a day to day change (but usually is week to week) and I can’t pinpoint why.

    I never know when I pop open a space dust or bhodizafa if it will be sweet yummy citrus, or crazy hop bitter. This can be from the same 6 pack, mind you.

    pale ales are almost always safe territory, but some can have similar (just not as strong) effects. I’m not anal enough to try to pin it to a certain hop variety, but I have a theory that there are one or two I’m sensitive to.

    Super weird because on good days these hoppy IPA’s are truly my favorite. I love Breakside, Georgetown, Fremont, Boneyard, etc.

    any ideas?

    Thanks much,
    Toby
     
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  2. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    It absolutely can change. Aside from potential changes in storage and batch variations, if a beer is warm versus cold can make a big difference in what is being tasted.
    Also, depending on what you've been eating and drinking that day can have a big effect on the flavors and aromas you're detecting.
    And speaking for myself, sometimes I'm in the mood for one style over another, say a porter over an IPA. If I open an IPA, I may not enjoy it as much as if I was in the mood for it.
     
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  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I personally have never experienced what you are describing here. I have noticed variability of hop aroma/flavor intensity of a given brand but it is typically an issue of beer freshness; hop aroma fades with just a couple/few months of aging.

    If you are noticing a day to day change of beer from the same six-pack my only guess is that your palate is impacted by what you have eaten on a given day (as was discussed above).

    Cheers!
     
  4. honkey

    honkey Maven (1,350) Aug 28, 2010 Arizona
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    Most likely has to do with whatever you’re eating and drinking before you have a beer. For me, I like to eat spicy food and there’s a taco shop I visit in Mexico with some incredibly spicy salsas. If I go there for lunch, things still won’t taste fully normal by dinner time.

    Also, do you have sinus issues? I could see an IPA tasting good one day and real bitter the next during allergy season. Or if this is a recent thing, have you had Covid? It took me months to get my sense of smell and taste to begin to return and now 6 months later I’m finally back to the point of being 100% most of the time, but I’ll still have the occasional bad day where nothing tastes vibrant.
     
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  5. colby600

    colby600 Pooh-Bah (1,919) Mar 24, 2015 Connecticut
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    On multiple occasions I've had beer from the same four pack taste completely different on back to back days. This is beer I've picked up from breweries so I pretty much know where it's been. I've learned over time that this is me problem, not the product, so I don't drink anything else that day.

    For instance, I've had three beers (TH Haze) from the same pack on three consecutive days. Day 1 tasted great, day two was bitter without much flavor so I trashed it, day three tasted great again.
     
  6. SILVER

    SILVER Zealot (668) Jan 3, 2007 Florida

    It happens to me also. Sometimes during the day also. A beer that tastes good early on a hot day will not fit the bill late in the evening after dinner. I had to drain pour a good sour a few weeks ago for this reason.
    As far as IPAs go, I'll have a time during the year or season when they just taste bitter no matter what the style. I'll call that being hopped out. When this happens I figure it's time to change. This could be to milder ales, lagers or select Belgians. BTW, I'm in that phase now, although a good simple Imperial Stout is still welcome late in the evening.
     
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  7. TobyWan

    TobyWan Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2021

    Thanks, interesting stuff! I’ve read some threads about palate cleansing, will pay attention to food during the day to see if I can pinpoint it. It’s odd that no other food or drink has a similar effect for me (short of drinking orange juice right after brushing my teeth!)
     
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  8. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I think all of the external factors that can affect the taste of beer have been covered above, but aroma needs to be offered as a potential cause. OP, do you drink mostly from the bottle/can? Or if you always use a glass, do you vary the pour from easy to aggressive? These serving methods can all be factors that determine how much aroma from the beer reaches your nose. Take a look at your methods to determine if they are a factor.
     
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  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Also, the type (shape) of a glass can have an influence. @TobyWan do you use the same glass when drinking your IPAs?

    Cheers!
     
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  10. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Adding to that, those pours will vary the carbonation in the beer - which will also influence the flavor when you drink it.

    @TobyWan - You can see from everything in this thread, that the amount of factors at play is really large. Consider it part of the fun rather than a major obstacle. I tend to place emphasis on changes with the drinker first... and then add changes to the drinking environment... but one thing that hasn't been mentioned above is that it can also be changes in the actual beer due to variation at the packaging facility. It's possible to have varying levels of oxygen in the beer from can to can (or bottle) within the same 6 pack due to the filler.
     
  11. Insomniac

    Insomniac Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2019 Canada (ON)

    As mentioned, your palate will be influenced by the food you have eaten/are eating. In addition, the sequencing of the beers will influence your palate and each subsequent beer. If I’m serious about tastes and not just drinking for enjoyment, I will drink from least challenging to most challenging. Drink a Quad and a Barleywine and then tell me if you’re getting anything out of that Pilsner you have for beer three.
     
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  12. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    You know those NEIPA that are like pure citrus juice and no bitterness? Eat a donut first than drink it again . It will taste a lot more bitter.
     
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  13. Leighton_

    Leighton_ Initiate (194) Jan 31, 2021 Minnesota
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    The palate is a very tricky thing and just being dehydrated or eating something else before your beer can throw off flavors or introduce less prominent ones to the forefront. I've had my favorite sours suddenly taste like vomit towards the end of the night as an example.
     
  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Did you learn that trick from Homer!?! :flushed:

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  15. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    Lol, of course. Homer knows all the wonders of the universe.
     
  16. eagles22

    eagles22 Pundit (998) Sep 7, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    I came across a beer review on youtube of equilibrium fluctuation and this dude and a girl split a can and said they both tasted different. Which I never heard of in my life
     
  17. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,735) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    Time and temperature has a huge effect on beer. If I grab a warm 4 pack of beer, they usually taste very different after a few hours in the fridge when I crack the first one open vs one that has been in the fridge overnight. Also, I've had NEIPAs that are undrinkably bad when I've cracked cans in successive nights, yet 2 months later the taste profile is completely different where the green bitter hops have mellowed into complex fruity flavors. Drives me nuts.
     
  18. jageraholic

    jageraholic Pooh-Bah (1,632) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
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    I can believe that. Whoever gets the ass end of the can will have a different tasting beer due to the nasty trub.
     
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  19. nomisugitai

    nomisugitai Zealot (730) Mar 11, 2006 New Jersey

    Twice last year I had a Goose Island IPA while waiting for take out food at a place down the street from me that was the best beer ever. I recently drank a Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout that was perfect. Drinking the BBCS made me think back to the Goose IPA and realize that palate change happens and in my case can't be explained. Both beers are not the best beers ever, but on those occasions were.
     
  20. SILVER

    SILVER Zealot (668) Jan 3, 2007 Florida

    At least all the important ones.
     
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