Trade Value Thread (Q1 2021)

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by Slack, Jan 1, 2021.

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  1. Canreleaseguy

    Canreleaseguy Aspirant (274) Aug 16, 2017 California
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    What value does Zenne b5 and b6 have looking to swap for some berb or BA stouts but not sure what to ask for.
     
  2. Affinity

    Affinity Savant (1,134) Nov 24, 2018 Missouri
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    Right around 0.5VRU each. I think pretty much all Zenne except for b1, b2, and the unreleased brewery blends are around 0.5 VRU give or take.
     
  3. Thirst_trappist

    Thirst_trappist Maven (1,420) Jan 18, 2016 Florida
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    Thank you
     
  4. Onerandombeer

    Onerandombeer Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2017 Illinois
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    All values other than MSRP are arbitrary.
     
  5. Affinity

    Affinity Savant (1,134) Nov 24, 2018 Missouri
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    It is arbitrary if you just throw out a random number. I agree with that.

    While trade values fluctuate, people post on this thread asking for help. Sometimes to make a fair trade offer, other times to help close a bottle that has eluded them. People come here looking for advice. It is not good advice to just cite a random number when people are asking for help.
     
  6. Thirst_trappist

    Thirst_trappist Maven (1,420) Jan 18, 2016 Florida
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    So do you have any insight into the question?
     
  7. Onerandombeer

    Onerandombeer Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2017 Illinois
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    Sure, you can ask here for values, but those values may not be helpful or relevant to your trade. In addition, the values given here may not agree with your perception of value at any given time.

    Besides, what is value? What's the "value" of 2 bottles of OWA? To a recovering alcoholic, the value is 0. To someone who needs cash, perhaps it's whatever they can get for them in 30 minutes with the least effort. To someone who wants 5 bottles of modem tones, it's worth 5 bottles of modem tones. Perhaps it's 2.5 VRU (whatever the hell that is these days)

    So, I guess what I'm saying is, asking for "value" on something is entirely subjective and arbitrary to whoever and whenever you are asking.
     
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  8. D09daryl

    D09daryl Crusader (446) Mar 11, 2017 California
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    No
     
  9. Thirst_trappist

    Thirst_trappist Maven (1,420) Jan 18, 2016 Florida
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    I'll ask again since my question didn't seem to land

    Do you have any insight on the question I asked about a specific item?
     
  10. William_Navidson

    William_Navidson Pooh-Bah (1,557) May 1, 2015 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Don’t mean to be rude, but... no shit. The people asking for beer-to-beer value in this thread are simply looking for the most common “value” of given beers in the community (given that they tend to normalize, to some degree), and are very aware that “value” here is a somewhat ambiguous term prone to fluctuation and to extreme outliers for some reason. Nothing you’ve added to this thread is new or noteworthy, just FYI.

    Did you think people in this thread were looking for a concrete, hard value for a beer that wouldn’t change for anyone? I can see why you would be confused, if so, but I don’t think that’s the case. I hope that helps!
     
  11. Rustytacos

    Rustytacos Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2018 California
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    @Thirst_trappist
    You originally asked about some mead that you said was razzled for 1vru, start from there. Do have that mead or are you looking for it? More info the better. Good luck, sometimes you just got to put it out there and see what happens, don’t be afraid to be first.
     
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  12. KevinJohnson2

    KevinJohnson2 Savant (1,049) Jul 8, 2013 Michigan
    Society Trader

    With all due respect, if you have that strong of feelings about trade values why engage in a thread specifically asking about them? Makes no damn sense to me.
     
  13. Rustytacos

    Rustytacos Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2018 California
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    If everything made sense we would have nothing to complain about. Pain let’s know we are alive, complaints let’s us know there’s something to care about. Haha
     
  14. Thirst_trappist

    Thirst_trappist Maven (1,420) Jan 18, 2016 Florida
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    Have it...as well as trying to get the thread back on track....and actually gaging trade value.
     
  15. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    I don't think anyone would be surprised to hear this from me, but this is the god damned truth.

    You know how you all eyeroll me when I derail this thread?

    Well, when I see this thread get "back on track" is when my eyes roll the hardest. It's all so subjective, arbitrary, soul-suckingly greedy for those in hype-rich regions supporting each other's trade values, and way too much of it seems to come from a place of ego stroking.

    For me, it's not even so much an eyeroll as it is hilarious, but hey I love it, so keep it up y'all! I'll derail this another day, but today, credit to OP.
     
  16. Thirst_trappist

    Thirst_trappist Maven (1,420) Jan 18, 2016 Florida
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    Ever land that RBBT you were asking values for not too long ago?
     
  17. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Nope, never tried thereafter. I laughed off the absurdity of only being able to acquire an SP bottle with another SP bottle, or several bourbon bottles, which is another thing that tickles me.

    Somehow, despite the fact that all kinds of "rare" fire water is flooding the market around the country, the idea that bourbon is magically increasing in "value" has started to pervade here. Yet in actual trades I'm seeing more and more where the bourbon is being required to send multiple bottles to close on one bottle of beer. Whereas in the past, one bottle of similar bourbon would have demanded several rare beers in return.

    The entertainment value of this thread knows no bounds, and that so many of you take it so seriously only makes it richer. What may be the best part is how one solitary response to an inquiry will be immediately taken as gospel, and no one bats an eye at the absurdity of it all.
     
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  18. Thirst_trappist

    Thirst_trappist Maven (1,420) Jan 18, 2016 Florida
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    I'm not sure why you felt the need to delete your original much shorter reply.
     
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  19. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    See: your profile picture.
     
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  20. Onerandombeer

    Onerandombeer Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2017 Illinois
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    Yeah, I’ll trade bourbon for beer if I have to, but the “Values” people throw around for beer are absurd. As referenced above, I’m in process of trading 2 OWA for 5 bottles of modem tones. From a “value” standpoint, I did the trade because a) I’ve always wanted to try modem tones and I’m a big computer nerd, and b) my friends don’t drink bourbon.

    1) The person receiving the OWA is getting two bottles of hard to find bourbon with a resale value of roughly 200-260 pieces of moon cheese, for what I assume are member beers he probably can’t all drink, and might be sick of. Selling the beer at resale would be a pain in the ass to acquire the cash to buy the bourbon.
    2) The person receiving the modem tones is getting 5 bottles of modem tones worth ????pieces of moon cheese, for 2 bottles of OWA he came by pretty easily. He wants to share booze with friends who don’t drink bourbon, and like stouts. Those friends have also never had that particular beer.

    I specifically told my trade partner, I really only care about the volume of beer I could get from him in the trade, and leveraged his value assignments accordingly so the trade felt fair to him. It felt fair to me, because again, I want to share these.

    From a secondary value perspective, some people will probably say the person receiving the OWA “won” the trade.
    From a drinking perspective, I’m going to consume about a bomber worth of beer out of this. So, if you look at the value of the trade that way I’m getting absolutely screwed lol.

    But for me, the value is in getting something I can’t get in Chicago, to share with friends. If you look at it that way, I definitely “won” the trade.


    I’m currently haggling with someone for a BBT4. He wants a JD SB BP Rye+. We’ll see how it plays out....
     
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