Should we bring back New Beer Sunday?

Blog Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by Todd, Jun 7, 2021.

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Return New Beer to Sunday?

Poll closed Jun 12, 2021.
  1. Yes

    87 vote(s)
    46.0%
  2. No

    102 vote(s)
    54.0%
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  1. mickyge

    mickyge Grand Pooh-Bah (4,232) Nov 1, 2014 Massachusetts
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    I like having 2 days, sometimes things are going on Sundays that prevents posting
     
  2. meefmoff

    meefmoff Pooh-Bah (1,922) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    This and your earlier post really capture the hard-to-pin-down thoughts I have about this. When it was one day it kinda sorta felt like we were all having a beer together and taking part in the same conversation. With a longer time span it feels more like a drive-by kind of thread.

    I'd hate to "kick out" the new people who are only able to participate on Saturday though, so it's kind of a tough call, even if I feel like the participation was more rewarding when it was a tighter thread.
     
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  3. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    If adding a day and making it a weekend "event" didn't attract enough new folks, perhaps there are other ideas no one has mentioned yet, or ones we could create, to enhance whatever format is chosen as best? I don't have any new ideas right now, but I am going to think on it, hopefully others will do the same.
     
  4. meefmoff

    meefmoff Pooh-Bah (1,922) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Given the kinds of threads that seem to get the most traction here, maybe a "New Complaint Thursday" would be worth a shot :sunglasses:
     
  5. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    Your post irks me. I reckon that I will start a thread aboot it. :slight_smile:
     
  6. ovaltine

    ovaltine Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,787) Apr 6, 2010 Indiana
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    I’m old, so I like tradition.

    I like beer, so I like more opportunities to share new beers with my beer nerd friends.

    Glad I could help.

    In all seriousness, NBS felt more “special” and I like the idea of more share by style/brewery (and/or state/region) events on Saturday.

    Either way, I’ll be here. But I believe NBS has more cache, baby, and the data proves it out. Save Saturday for special events. Just my 7.48 cents worth, corrected for inflation.
     
  7. gatornation

    gatornation Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,388) Apr 18, 2007 Arizona
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    Let’s get this up and running Call it NCT. Right B4 the weekend open to all .:stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  8. MacMalt

    MacMalt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,322) Jan 28, 2015 New Jersey
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    I always looked forward to a special time on Sunday afternoon. Although I do review new beers on Saturday, I still consider it NBS and save my most anticipated beers to share on Sunday afternoon. That said, I don't want to exclude folks who, for whatever reason, find Saturday the better time to post.
     
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  9. thebeers

    thebeers Grand Pooh-Bah (5,837) Sep 10, 2014 Pennsylvania
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    I always thought it was stupid to kill a 15-year (or whatever) thread on a whim.

    Having it as one day a week was a good excuse to sit down and relax and contemplate a beer. There was also a certain camaraderie to knowing you could read reviews from some of your favorite BAs all on one day. Spreading it out over a whole weekend killed the specialness for me. If I want to review a beer any time that's convenient, I could already do that.

    I was also frankly grumpy that the regulars and long-time hosts weren't really consulted. A few posts mid-thread one random weekend and then the decree came on from high.

    I've bowed out of NBW and the related BIF. May join occasionally from time to time if it goes back to NBS, but I'm still salty about it.
     
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  10. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    I personally like it spread over 2 days. It simply provides more opportunity for people to participate. Maybe not immediately, but perhaps it will show with more time.
     
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  11. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    I was among the most vocal in opposition to the change to NBW, and my base point was that expanding it would take away the "special" feeling NBS always had. And, IMHO, that has shown to be true: it's just a 2-day WBADYN thread, with reviews, now. There's not as much interpersonal banter as before. Folks in their first post of the thread aren't taking a minute to tell us about what's going on in their worlds, which was a driving core of the @malty / @mattcrill days. It seems to have slipped into more an "all about the beer, and beer only" thing.

    One of the reasons stated for the change was to increase involvement. Now, if the folks who are posting are posting over two days, is that an increase? Are folks who didn't post in the one-day format posting in the 2-day format? Has it increased not the number of posts, but the number of posters?
     
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  12. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    It's been a year.

    Give it a decade and see if it flies?
     
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  13. ChicagoJ

    ChicagoJ Grand Pooh-Bah (5,247) Feb 2, 2015 Illinois
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    "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."

    The one idea I would like to reconsider was the change from the traditional two alternating hosts. I don't think it being restricted to Sunday made it special, but rather the thought provoking introductions prompting good conversations, both of beers reviewed and other topics, beer related or otherwise.

    I am somewhat intimidated in starting a NBW/NBS thread, really want to have something to add and provide a good discussion area, and have refrained at times from kicking off the thread as a result. With the previous hosting arrangement, the hosts had a well thought introduction, now it's started by whoever is having the first new beer. Perhaps not restricting the thread to two rotating hosts, but rather having someone propose to start the following week's thread, and allow them a week to come up with a solid opening and discussion topics would be the best way to proceed.

    In terms of my input, some may think I'm a zealot for continuing naming my Sunday posts as New Beer Sunday (849 last week), but I am just a traditionalist by nature. Participation ebbs and flows more based on the interrelated BIF thread. I don't mail beers, so not involved on that aspect, but to me whether or not there are BIF packages going around is the primary current driver of participation beyond 3-4 pages.

    I only started posting a few months in national threads including NBS/WBAYDN before the NBS change. Didn't post for a few weeks into the NBW change, perturbed I lost my beer review (didn't save in my notes, planned on copying and pasting from the post) when my post was deleted for having a video, allowed previously but abruptly changed that week.

    Two days give more flexibility in terms of other life commitments, so no strong feelings one way or the other. I do, as others, save my "best" beers until Sunday, though sometimes the reviews prove I selected the wrong one.

    Will keep the updating the NBS # regardless in my Sunday posts, and hope we can make a change to allowed more thought provoking kick off/introduction posts on a go-forward basis. In terms of individual style tastings, the ones hosted every 1-2 months have had solid participation, I wouldn't add or change anything with that format. @FBarber and others do a great job curating that thread, and we get solid participation as a result.

    Cheers!
     
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  14. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Let's keep NBW and include Friday night too! After all, the weekend starts Friday night for most people.
     
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  15. BillAfromSoCal

    BillAfromSoCal Pooh-Bah (2,415) Aug 24, 2020 California
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    Nope....unless it REPLACES new beer weekend. New beer weekend and New Beer Sunday are too nuanced in difference. What's next...new beer in a std pint glass consumed before 3PM when the temperature is above 75 deg F? Expand new beer weekend to include Friday, name a theme each week if you must, and leave it at that.
     
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  16. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    I think your point (and that made by @ChicagoJ ) about how the thread is started makes a lot of sense. Having dedicated people who kick it off each week is probably the way to go. That, and perhaps not restricting things to Sunday, might be a way to make it feel "special" again.
     
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  17. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    It has only been 46 weeks! Things take time :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  18. Junior

    Junior Pooh-Bah (1,883) May 23, 2015 Michigan
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    I did not participate much with it was on Sunday's. It was hard for me to find the time on a Sunday. I do not participate a lot more now, I did at first. My new beer intake is way down. I would prefer it to stay the way it is. If not, I would like it to move to Saturday.
     
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  19. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    It wasn’t on a whim. My understanding is that it was discussed by the community, the mods brought it to my attention, we discussed, and then I gave it a thumbs up.
     
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  20. thebeers

    thebeers Grand Pooh-Bah (5,837) Sep 10, 2014 Pennsylvania
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    As a long time participant, it sure as hell seemed like a whim to me. It was offered as a suggestion mid-post one Sunday. Fewer people replied than have already applied to this thread. And a few weeks later NBS was gone.
     
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