WLP590 French saison question

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  1. Effinwill

    Effinwill Crusader (433) Dec 2, 2016 California

    So I’m getting ready to bottle 10 gallons of saison made with this yeast. Fermentation started very quickly, continued for about 10 days, but after the krausen fell I’m left with significant flotsam compared to the traditional ale yeasts I’ve always used.
    Sound normal for this strain?
     
  2. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    White Lab lists this as medium flocculation. How does that compare to wat they say about the traditional ale yeasts you have always used? In any event, it likely clears up some with some settling time under chilled temps, either after bottle priming is done or the beer is kegged. I never used the White Labs version, but I don't recal 3711 or Belle Saison to have been murky beer, maybe lightly hazy, initially.
     
  3. Eriktheipaman

    Eriktheipaman Pooh-Bah (2,303) Sep 4, 2010 California
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    You're seeing yeast still in suspension? I'm not entirely sure what you're describing but post a pic if you'd like.

    None the less, this strain will flocc out with time and cool temps as mentioned above. I wouldn't worry too much about it on day 10 but if you'd like you could always rack off the yeast cake which should help with conditioning.
     
  4. Effinwill

    Effinwill Crusader (433) Dec 2, 2016 California

    Thanks. I’m old and challenged when it comes to posting pics, unfortunately. I’ll try again one day.
    The beer looks clear, the yeast has largely settled to the bottom, but the surface has “rafts” and what looks like hot break material. I reckon I’ll pull a sample before I do the bottle washing chore
     
  5. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Are you sure it's not krausen that is just being slow to drop?
     
  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    FWIW that would be my guess.

    Cheers!
     
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  7. Effinwill

    Effinwill Crusader (433) Dec 2, 2016 California

    Yes, could be. Definitely not mold.
    It's the first time I've made a saison or fermented so warm. I decided to not worry, have a home-brew and just bottle it this afternoon.
     
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  8. riptorn

    riptorn Pooh-Bah (1,776) Apr 26, 2018 Georgia
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    Are you at/near the target gravity? I've read that wheat or oats can sometimes make for a persistent krausen.
     
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  9. Effinwill

    Effinwill Crusader (433) Dec 2, 2016 California

    I did use a couple pounds of flaked wheat. I haven't taken an ending SG, and to be honest, I usually don't bother. In this case, it's definitely fermented out and loaded with ethyl! :slight_smile:
     
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  10. Effinwill

    Effinwill Crusader (433) Dec 2, 2016 California

    I hate reading threads that the OP doesn’t wrap up, so I’ll let you know: After moving the fermenters to my work bench, it looked like krausen floating on CO2 rafts. Much of it sank after being disturbed. The beer smelled beautiful, with tons of fruit notes mingling with the hops. I thought I smelled banana and pear, but combined with the German hallertau and Styrian goldings the overall effect reminded me of orange soda. Cheers!
     
  11. Effinwill

    Effinwill Crusader (433) Dec 2, 2016 California

    Tried it today after 10 days in the bottle and it’s pretty darn good. Not as dry as I had hoped but great flavors of ripe and over ripe fruit, very subtle pepper phenols, subtle hop flavor. Chill haze or maybe suspended yeast but otherwise I’m pretty impressed.
     
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