Fake Craft Beers

Yes, For the beer you are getting vs the $18-24 four packs around here sub $13 is crazy cheap. I cant get a decent local for close to that.

Enjoy

 

Yeah, a WeldWerks coconut stout at $8 a pint is pretty expensive.

 

If it’s not a bottle dipped in wax, it is surely a fake craft drink.

 

These people (link removed) define select beers as "imposters": Those trying to benefit from the power of craft beer, even though they are aligned with the forces who are trying to tear it down.
I am not a beer snob. I have bought and had beers on-premise from both ABiB and MolsonCoors. But for a cheap, sleazy beer I would prefer to have from a brewery which is not owned by them.
You may have noticed me sticking up in other Beer Advocate threads for Name Tag and Simpler Times beers brewed in Monroe, WI. (sold at Trader Joe's markets). I buy 12- and 15-packs of 12-oz. cans of Genesee Cream Ale. I have recently caught on with Montucky Cold Snacks. If Cold Spring | Third Street brews an Oktoberfest beer as good as the one it did in 2019 (when it appeared in Aldi markets), I'll stock that too. Iron City might reappear in Chicago relatively soon.
But I will generally prefer brews from relatively unaffiliated breweries. Revolution Brwg. has begun using a tag line in its print advertising, "Brewed only in Chicago". I deduce we can tell which brewery is having the cannon pointed at it.

 

Fake Craft Beer? Try the Earl Hay Press - Beer, supplier to TV shows and movies. They also have Fake Macros and Fake Imports.

 

I seem to recall Spanish posters on BA considering them a big threat to their local craft scene. I don’t totally remember. For people here who care about supporting their local brewers and don’t like supporting the likes of AB InBev, they should probably consider that Founders is 90% owned by one of the 25 biggest brewers in the world (IIRC) - a company that is buying percentages of other US “craft” brewers, brewing Founders brands at those other breweries, and bringing their Founders brands to other parts of the world where local craft-inspired brewers have much weaker roots. Certainly the situation’s similarities with AB InBev should be enough for anyone who opposes AB InBev and supports local craft on principle. (Personally, I purchase AB InBev products.)

They tried that already with their former requirement:

It was ridiculous and grossly transparent to me. They decided to abandon it, and they’d be crazy to try anything remotely like it again. The BA doesn’t really want to be exclusive… they want to be as inclusive as possible while keeping the biggest out of their definition (but not their circle).

 

Especially since they somehow declared that the corn used in Shiner Bock "enhanced rather than lightened" that beer, while it didn't in other similar corn adjunct-brewed beers like Yuengling Traditional Lager or the Schell beers.

Well, they still don't count the non-beer barrelage (FMB, seltzer, cider, kombucha) of brewers like Boston Beer Co. and just about every other regional "craft" brewery, when they make up their annual list of the Top 50 Craft Breweries. Thus +7 million barrel BBC is still #2 behind 2.5M Yuengling.

 

That sounds so much like my courses in logic/debate in college. It just makes me want to argue well. Which should be a goal for all of us. I was born for debate and ground rules. Like referees. But those rascals could always call a technical foul, out of the blue

 

Were you ever assessed 15 yards for taunting (unsportsmanlike conduct)?

 

I always thought of Craft Beer as somewhat small batches using quality ingredients. These days Craft Beer is just so huge and they are sacrificing quality for profits.

 

Never, but I was a good referee also. I grew up playing against Bob McAdoo and Pete Maravich so-except for Pete- most everyone was a damned good sport.

 

Ya I was thinking more of some kind of quality standard for the ingredients. But for all the reasons you listed, the aren't interested in that either. It's ultimately too vague of a concept to pin down in a way that will satisfy everyone, I think.

 

$2+ per can/bottle

 

so why does any of this matter? Generalizations and assumptions about "quality" or other obscure subjective measures of the extent to which a beer will be liked are likely unfair or even inaccurate when applied to any single brewery that falls inside or outside the "definition" of craft beer. Am I supposed to like Founders beers less now? I drink some of them regularly and still find them to be excellent. I still struggle with why we care what is or is not "craft" since good and bad beers can both be from either craft or not craft brewers.

 

Try an Orval.

 

I would bet that we could agree at a rate of 85-95% if asked to classify a number of random beers as ‘craft’ or not. It’s that last 5-15% that causes the problem. I’m this regard I would not say that the term craft beer is useless.

 

Who do you think are the edge cases? Founders clearly. Sam adams would probably generate some argument. Leinenkugel? Yuengling? Shiner? Smoothie sours? If my time on this board has taught me anything its that ill take the under on an 85% agreement everytime