What’s the Difference? Share your Side-by-Side (2021)

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  1. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    Enjoyed this write up. I've been curious about Human Robot and still haven't gone, partly the prices of their beers but also just time is short these days. Maybe eventually I will make it, I'm curious about their Polotmavy mainly and want to give it a try on tap.

    PS I hope to add to this thread sometime soon, either this weekend or next. Two well known canned nitro stouts @cjgiant
     
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  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    If you get to try that beer at the brewery the 'bonus' is that they serve their beers there via a Czech manufactured Lukr side pull tap/faucet:

    "POLOTMAVY Czech Garnet Lager | 5.2% abv | $6
    Subtle, yet satisfying. Translated as “half-dark”, this decoction brewed lager has a slight roast flavor from Vienna and chocolate malts. Poured from Czech Lukr side pull faucet"

    I had many beers in the Czech Republic during my two week vacation in 2019 served from a Lukr side pull faucet; this delivery provides a wet foam vs. the dry foam that a regular tap/faucet provides.

    I had a handful of Polotmavy beers during my visit to the Czech Republic and everyone of those beers reminded me of Yuengling Traditional Lager. A snippet (with bolding) from my visit to the Staropramen brewery:


    "Prague Lagers trip report No. 2

    Today (9/20/19) was Staropramen beer day (for more reason than one).

    My wife and I took a tour of the Staropramen Brewery today (it was a 3 minute walk from our hotel). Before the tour my wife asked: Are you going to ask a bunch (of annoying) questions during the tour? She didn’t actually say the words “annoying” but via the tone I got the ‘message’. My response to her questions was: absolutely!!

    The tour was ‘interesting’ in that it was a multimedia tour vs. an actual tour of the brewery with a tour guide. I almost felt like the folks who took a ‘tour’ of Jurassic Park in the beginning of the movie where that tour was movies with narration. And needless to say a disappointment for me since I couldn’t ask my (‘annoying’) brewing questions.

    An option with the tour was a beer tasting after the tour and of course we chose to do this. There is a very nice pub in the basement of the Staropramen Visitor Center of the brewery and we were served four sample pours (see photo below). From right to left the four beers were:

    · Staropramen Premium: what I would term a Pilsner but the Czechs would term as a Pale Lager

    · Unfiltered: brewed with malt (Pilsner Malt I presume) and wheat and unfiltered

    · Granat: they term this beer as being a semi-dark beer and brewed with three malts including caramel malt

    · Dark Lager (Tmavý Ležák): brewed with 4 malts and I presume one is caramel malt based upon my tasting of this beer

    Both my wife and I preferred the Pale beers over the non-Pale beers.

    The Granat beer is marketed by Staropramen as being brewed using a recipe from 1884. From the Staropramen website:

    “Staropramen Granat is a unique lager which proudly embodies our brewing traditions. This beer is based on the original recipe from 1884. The special sprinkling process of mixing pale and specialty malts is what gives the beer its unique ruby red - granat - colour.

    Staropramen Granat – fine hops meet a perfect combination of three different malts.”

    The Granat reminded me of Yuengling Traditional Lager. It was brewed well but not exactly a favorite of mine
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    I will be interested in reading what you think of the Human Robot Polotmavy.

    Na Zdravi
     
  3. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Speaking of Nitro Stouts, canned nitro Rogue Shakespeare Stout is now a thing, and a pretty darn good one at that.
     
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  4. SLeffler27

    SLeffler27 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,906) Feb 24, 2008 New York
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    About how many oz are these mugs?

    AND: Do you think the following a reasonably fair description of Polotmavý, as a style?

    http://www.beerculture.org/tag/polotmavy/

    “...a polotmavý (half-dark, meaning amber) Weißbier. It’s brewed at a conventional 13° with about 5% alcohol, versus 18.5° and a massive 8.2% for the brawny German.

    The strength might be the biggest difference between the two, as some of the flavors and aromas are quite similar. The nose of the Polotmavý Weißbier has cooked plums and chocolate and cocoa notes with just a breath of citrus acidity. In the mouth, it starts out with fairly sweet and complex fruitcake flavors before a dry finish.”
     
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  5. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    My guess (and it is only a guess) is 5-6 ounces.
    Not really sure what that website is getting at.

    I would recommend the BJCP style guidelines for you to learn more about the Polotmavý (Czech Amber Lager) beer style.

    Cheers!
     
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  6. SLeffler27

    SLeffler27 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,906) Feb 24, 2008 New York
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    Got it! Czech Amber Lager. Personally, Polotmavý keeps the ethnicity alive ;-)

    And those mugs a nice too.

    Thanks.
     
  7. PittBeerGirl

    PittBeerGirl Pooh-Bah (2,423) Feb 27, 2007 Ohio
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    I had a side by side of FFF cheer team and Tripping Animals Men in Grey Suits and couldn't tell the difference. Delicious beers BTW but FFF had lower ABV and price point so that was my choice for the pint.

    My mom doesn't drink IPAs but gave the sniff test and thought they were similar.

    MIGS is advertised as an imperial NE IPA. CT as a catch all well rounded IPS.
     
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  8. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I'm geeky... well, not THAT geeky, but I did something similar (and the word I'd use is "obsessive"). I once bought a Schlenkerla Marzen bottle in Belgium and brought it back to the US to do a comparison tasting with a bottle bought over here. I figured that the one I brought wasn't subjected to any transatlantic import abuse... but I didn't know the date of the bottles. The beer that traveled with me was a slight bit better than the properly imported beer, but nothing close to drastic.
     
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  9. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Unfortunately Oktoberfest is not taking place this year.

    Years ago when I went I had Paulaner’s Wiesn inside the Paulaner tent. I returned to the US and one of my locals had it on tap. Tasted just as good on tap here as there if I recall correctly.
     
  10. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    I had Murphy’s Stout for the first time two weeks ago for NBW. I bought a single but liked it so much I grabbed a four pack (7.50$ that’s a steal). I naturally used Guinness as my comparison as I think it’s hard not to since that’s the only other Irish nitro Stout I’ve had.

    I had my thoughts about which I liked more but hadn’t had Guinness in quite a few years so I thought it would be fun to compare and see what the differences were and which I liked more. Here you go…

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    These two beers are identical in appearance; color, head retention, the nitro cascade as they settled, everything to a tee (today at least)

    The aromas are noticeably different to me. The Murphy’s has a much more pronounced dark roast coffee aroma. The guiness I would say also has some coffee but it’s a weak watered down coffee aroma. They both also possess some chocolate character guiness reminds me of cocoa powder whereas Murphy’s is more dark chocolate like.

    The taste matches the nose for both of these beers. Really no difference that I can tell.

    Mouthfeel is light on both of these but I’d say the Murphy’s has a slightly bigger body. Both have the smooth nitro down very well. Like the nose though the Murphy’s has a lingering roasth aftertaste where as the guiness leaves a small sweet aftertaste.

    I enjoy both of these beers I enjoy the Murphy’s a lot more. It’s almost like the guiness is a watered down version of the Murphy’s. They both of similar notes but they’re all more pronounced in Murphy’s. On this night for this side by side I’d go with Murphy’s.

    Anyone else done this side by side? I feel like it’s such an obvious one, curious if anyone else has.
     
  11. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    I did a blind tasting with these two a couple years ago and I remember being shocked that I ranked Murphys above Guinness and it wasn't all that close ... so I completely agree with you here.
     
  12. BeastOfTheNortheast

    BeastOfTheNortheast Pooh-Bah (2,153) Dec 26, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Very nice review.

    Spent time in Ireland and below is what I thought from the Dry Irish Stouts there:

    Beamish > Murphy’s > Guinness

    Loved the Guinness tour and all of the beer I consumed there, but def.y least favorite of the 3.
     
  13. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    Thanks @BeastOfTheNortheast. I’ve never heard of Beamish until now from you. Did you only have it in Ireland or have you had it here as well?
     
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  14. BeastOfTheNortheast

    BeastOfTheNortheast Pooh-Bah (2,153) Dec 26, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Only in Ireland. It is my understanding, some old heads can confirm, that Beamish was once imported to the US. Apparently it is no longer.

    I think the main reason I enjoyed it was it was half of the price of both Murphy’s and Guinness when in Ireland and was a good brew.
     
  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    "...some old heads can confirm, that Beamish was once imported to the US."

    I guess this makes me an "old head" since I did drink Beamish 'back in the day' (early 2000's and before) at various Irish Pubs in Philadelphia. It has been too long to provide details other than I preferred it (and Murphy's) to Guinness.

    Cheers!
     
  16. BeastOfTheNortheast

    BeastOfTheNortheast Pooh-Bah (2,153) Dec 26, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Lol I knew you’d come through.

    Based on your post, I was still in HS (possibly middle school) while you were drinking Beamish in Philly.
     
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  17. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I did it as well years ago. I'm the outlier in that I think I preferred Guinness (it's tough to remember exactly)... but your description still rings true to me. The Murphy's was certainly bolder, but the Guinness felt so impeccably constructed for me. Maybe I'd feel differently if I did it again.
     
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  18. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    I can definitely see this side of it too. I really enjoyed them both, but I think the coffee lover in me is what made me choose Murphy’s this time.

    I could very easily see myself choosing Guiness on a different night or different scenario though. Perhaps I will revisit and do this one blind sometime.
     
  19. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Guinness also has its famous twang, not quite sour or wild but leaning that way. I find it to show itself prominently in direct comparisons like this.

    It's not just the construction of the Guinness, but it's got a more 'mature' feel to it as well.
     
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  20. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    It is funny you say this because I almost said Guinness had more of a fresh bread character. I stopped short because I couldn’t put a finger on it but now that you say it this is definitely what I was tasting. Almost like sourdough but stopping short.
     
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