Bad Trader: chardlogic

Discussion in 'Bad Traders' started by Pasearelli, Sep 9, 2021.

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  1. Pasearelli

    Pasearelli Crusader (476) Mar 1, 2015 California
    Trader

    Real talk. I just wanted shipping cost but to be insulted then giving the rating was just a slap in the face......
     
  2. KevinJohnson2

    KevinJohnson2 Savant (1,049) Jul 8, 2013 Michigan
    Society Trader

    No response from @chardlogic (was on BA within the last day) seems to speak volumes here...
     
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  3. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
    Mod Team BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

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  4. MattOC

    MattOC Pooh-Bah (2,100) Jan 13, 2013 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Cue the “it’s just beer” response. Sure, I didn’t read a 1:1 trade post correctly and pestered OP about communication throughout. Then didn’t really make an effort to make any of this mess right. What’s the big deal?!
     
  5. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
    Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Yep. Invariably, that kind of reaction generally speaks volumes. Knock on wood, maybe he's just taking some time to "collect his thoughts," but this isn't what I would call a positive sign.
     
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  6. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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  7. Pasearelli

    Pasearelli Crusader (476) Mar 1, 2015 California
    Trader

    @FBarber is there a next step from here?
     
  8. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
    Mod Team BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    I will talk with @Todd and @John_M to decide how to handle @chardlogic. I will be in touch shortly.
     
  9. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
    Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Hi @FBarber.

    Having @Todd ban a BT is really the only recourse in a situation like this. That's always a last resort, as it does nothing to help the OP/victim out. Likewise, I believe @Todd is the only one who can purge the inappropriate, negative trade feedback.

    Normally, I would recommend waiting a bit longer before asking @Todd to apply the ban hammer... Just to give the BT a bit more time to respond and explain his actions (and maybe take some steps towards helping out the OP victim). Not sure how realistic that is in this case. The BT seems to only rarely visit BA, and the one time he logged onto BA after the BT thread, he logged right back off. It's going on 4 days now since he was last on BA.
     
  10. MattOC

    MattOC Pooh-Bah (2,100) Jan 13, 2013 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    It’s crazy that it’s gotten to this point. Is it really worth it to stand your ground over your mistake @chardlogic and potentially/likely get banned for it? It’s only been a week and if they lightened up and taken responsibility they could have worked this out with @Pasearelli and simply agreed to what they were looking for to clear up this mess, an apology and the shipping cost. Everything would likely be fine, but here we are.
     
  11. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
    Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Exactly this. But I feel as if this is often the case. It would be so easy to handle this informally, with no need for a BT thread. Just act responsibly, acknowledge you might have made a mistake... Own up to it and do whatever it takes to make the OP whole. Not such a difficult or expensive thing I don't think, at least not when compared to the alternative. We all make mistakes from time to time, no? And yet just as you said, here we are.
     
  12. Pasearelli

    Pasearelli Crusader (476) Mar 1, 2015 California
    Trader

    I don't think it's worth banning the guy but a reference of who everyone is dealing with should be noted. For me, it's completely about clearing my name and that bad trade reference. I'm a solid dude so I just want my trades to stay at 100% cuz thats what I deserve. Forget the shopping cost at this point don't even care anymore.
     
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  13. MattOC

    MattOC Pooh-Bah (2,100) Jan 13, 2013 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I don’t necessarily think they should be banned either, but the way they’ve handled this has grounds for it.

    Based on how you’ve laid it out, their feedback was completely false. Seemed like there was plenty of communication and they just left pissy feedback as a way of lashing out for their mistake.

    I’d imagine whatever way it goes with them, your reputation will be returned and remain intact.

    Whatever happens with your feedback for them, if it stays bad or you change it to neutral, people should always be checking users recent trade feedback so people will be able to this recent mark against their record.
     
  14. Lorddevn

    Lorddevn Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2019 Wisconsin
    Trader

    I agree with not banning the guy and OP should have his bad trade changed so he’s back to 100%. But the thing I find odd is @chardlogic was so quick to lock this deal down, but has been so silent at this time. Maybe his work has him able to be on a limited amount of time, but once I saw a thread like this I would want to be quick to say my side of the story.
     
  15. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
    Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Ultimately, it's @Todd's decision, but my feeling is that @chardlogic has provided ample grounds for a ban. Unless we disbelieve the OP's story, there's absolutely no basis for the negative feedback he provided. At this point I'm completely mystified as to what prompted it. It's almost as if he decided to make a "preemptive strike," hitting the OP with negative feedback before the OP could do it first. Maybe there's some other reasonable explanation, but seeing as how @chardlogic has avoided BA and this thread since the original post, there's no way to know.

    I can certainly understand @Pasearelli's desire to just put this behind him and be done with it, but at this point some decision needs to be made with respect to @chardlogic. At the very least, I think his behavior is deserving of negative feedback, and I agree that the negative feedback @Pasearelli received should be purged.

    It's going on a week now since @chardlogic was last on BA. He's an infrequent visitor to the site anyway, but I'm starting to wonder if this maybe the last we'll ever see of him.
     
  16. flat_lander

    flat_lander Pooh-Bah (2,490) May 11, 2016 Illinois
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Really weird that someone with 10.5 years and almost 40 trades on BA wouldn't come here to tell their side of things.
     
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  17. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
    Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Agreed. I keep thinking there must be more to the story... Something we're missing.

    I was taking a look at some of the feedback he's gotten in the past, and this latest nonsense just seems completely out of character. Something just doesn't add up.
     
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  18. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
    STAFF Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah

    I've reached out to @chardlogic. If he doesn't reply by EOD tomorrow, we'll assume that he's not interested in clearing things up.
     
  19. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
    STAFF Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah

    Update: He's opted log in during this thread, ignore it, and then ignore my email that gave him the option to reply here and attempt to clear things up. So, I've purged the feedback and banned his account.
     
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