Why no style listing for Amber Ale?

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/styles/128/

 

Just what I was gonna post. Same as "Lager -- American Amber/Red."

 

It's more about the re-wording of the styles to group them with the broader category listed first which happened in the last year or so:
https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/styles/

In this case "Red Ale" is the broader category and "American Amber/Red" is the sub-style. Just not as intuitive since there are only 2 "Red Ale-" substyles, unlike the many sub-styles for "Porter-", "IPA-", "Lager- ", etc.

 

And you also have some Altbier disguised as Amber Ales.

Altbier | BeerAdvocate

 

Are they (Amber and Red Ales) really "two styles" or just two names for the same basic type of beer? For that matter, those early craft era US-brewed "Ambers" were pretty much the same color as Bass Pale Ale...

My favorite story about that "red beer" craze of the mid-90s which even the macro brewers participated in (there was even a Falstaff/Pabst product "Ballantine Twisted Red Ale", taking some "inspiration" from Pete's Wicked, too):
Supposedly AB heard that Miller was about to come out with a beer brand called "Red Dog". "Oh, shit, we better develop a competing red beer quick!" said the marketing people in St. Louis and before you knew it - "Red Wolf" and "Elk Mt. Red".

Oops, but Miller's Red Dog wasn't a red/amber beer, just another "premium" AAL.

 

I think both beers use the same ingredients in the recipe except that one malt is kilned a little more which causes it to impart the red color. So these beers are really the same style except they land at different places along the color spectrum.

 

In always assumed Amber Ale was a catch all category like American Strong for a range of amber coloured beers that couldn't be placed elsewhere.

 

"The dog's red. The beer's not." I remember it like it was yesterday. Well, it was college for me, so much longer ago than yesterday.

 

I liked that beer back in early 90s Georgia. Had it .much later and it was awful..but not the same beer IMO

 

I remember that "craze" too.
My brother-in-law used to drink that Red Dog all the time.
Miss the whole Pete's Wicked line-up.

 

And a ton of non-amber colored beers too.

 

That doesn't look like the Pantone Matching System.

(or the SRM scale, for that matter. )

What does Avalanche look like *before* being aged in whiskey barrels? Loophole?

Not even gonna get into how cinnamon may have effected an "amber."

 

"DRINK THIS BEER FRESH".
Uh, no thanks.

 

I've noticed that some breweries are changing their traditional ESBs to "amber" i.e. Left hand Brewing's Sawtooth ale, formally described proudly as an ESB.

 

That would probably put a smile on Fuller's if they knew aboot it.

 

But would it make them happy enough to buy their Griffin brewery back from Asahi?