Oregon Saisons at Saison Prices?

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  1. _pat_

    _pat_ Crusader (410) Apr 26, 2016 Washington

    Do you get Henhouse up in Oregon? They have a nice saison in their core lineup. $12 for a 16oz 4 pack.
     
    #41 _pat_, Mar 17, 2022
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  2. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Not regularly. We get the occasional drop, and I think they sent up a number of sixtels of their tipa, but so far that's been it.
     
    #42 John_M, Mar 17, 2022
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  3. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    @distantmantra - If Rayon Vert or even Orval were marketed as saisons, would you think the brewers mischaracterized the beers after you tried them? Orval is more in the spirit of a saison than a ton of American beers marketed as such. If "Belgian pale" is a legitimate thing, then Orval and Saison Dupont could each be in that camp.
     
    #43 zid, Mar 18, 2022
  4. DefenCorps

    DefenCorps Grand Pooh-Bah (4,838) Jan 18, 2007 Oregon
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    Way too many American saisons are barrel aged /funky, and many that aren't are too sweet instead. However, that doesn't make Orval or Rayon Vert saison-esque, since the fermentation character is so different imo
     
    #44 DefenCorps, Mar 18, 2022
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  5. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    This is too true. Even though I found the 6 packs of Collette at a great price, and I love the Farmhouse Ale strain they use as part of the blend to ferment it; the beer finishes too sweet. They either need to supplement the grain bill with some sugar to get the beer to finish dryer, or they need to up the IBUs by about 10. Honestly, it would be a great Saison if they did both.
     
    #45 jbakajust1, Mar 18, 2022
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  6. DefenCorps

    DefenCorps Grand Pooh-Bah (4,838) Jan 18, 2007 Oregon
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    Agreed. But everyone there's a discussion on how to do saisons "right", along comes Dany saying "here's a beer. It's green. And has wormwood. It's a saison. "
     
    #46 DefenCorps, Mar 19, 2022
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  7. weaverr

    weaverr Zealot (729) Jun 10, 2008 California

    This was always my go-to. Probably the package beer I bought most often. The Whole Foods in the Pearl almost always had it.
     
    #47 weaverr, Mar 29, 2022
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  8. DefenCorps

    DefenCorps Grand Pooh-Bah (4,838) Jan 18, 2007 Oregon
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    ForeLand's Rain Harvester is an excellent saison at the $15-16/4 pack of pints price.
    Upright's being another batch of Six for their upcoming anniversary party. I'd expect crowlers at the $8-10/ crowler price.
     
    #48 DefenCorps, Mar 30, 2022
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  9. distantmantra

    distantmantra Pooh-Bah (2,954) May 23, 2011 Washington
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    E9 has Just Livin' in cans. A 4.5% saison dry hopped with First Gold and Wakatu hops.
     
    #49 distantmantra, Mar 30, 2022
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  10. derftron

    derftron Pooh-Bah (1,663) Feb 8, 2012 Oregon
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    not sure if this counts as a saison (???) but the Foreland Sea of Showers farmhouse ale is pretty delicious. ive had 3-4 cans so far and i really enjoy it. $3.49 for 16oz can which is a deal in my book
     
    #50 derftron, Apr 22, 2022
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  11. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Is that a good deal? I don't buy many saisons/farmhouse ales, but unless I'm buying a sour or a BA beer of some sort, $12 to $14 for a four pack seems like the going rate for most local beers I see on the shelf.

    Not trying to be snarky... just curious why you feel this would be a good deal. Are most saisons/farmhouse ale 4 packs more expensive than that?
     
    #51 John_M, Apr 22, 2022
  12. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    This is the reason I started the thread. Unfortunately, way too many breweries think that Saisons/Farmhouse Ales should be expensive. I agree, over $12 for a 4 pack is too expensive, unless it has secondary additives like oak aging, Brett, souring bacteria, a combination of those, or even a sizeable fruit addition. Nowadays, I won't pay more than $12 for a 4 pack or $10 for a 6 pack.
     
    #52 jbakajust1, Apr 22, 2022
  13. derftron

    derftron Pooh-Bah (1,663) Feb 8, 2012 Oregon
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    well im seeing 16oz cans of IPAs regularly fetch $5 for 16oz cans, and most beers on tap are now at least $6 (without tip). so $3.49 sounds good to me.
     
    #53 derftron, Apr 22, 2022
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  14. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    At the very least, you got me interested in their farmhouse ales. Lardo has their Tales of Petrichor farmhouse ale on tap. Happy hour price is $4 for a pint. It's quite good.
     
    #54 John_M, Apr 22, 2022
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  15. DefenCorps

    DefenCorps Grand Pooh-Bah (4,838) Jan 18, 2007 Oregon
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    I got to it kinda late, but Breakside collaborated with Von Ebert to make a can conditioned straight saison called Islands in the Stream. $3.5/pint, so a solid deal, though not to far off from either breweries' core pricing.
     
    #55 DefenCorps, May 24, 2022
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  16. sharpski

    sharpski Grand Pooh-Bah (3,100) Oct 11, 2010 Oregon
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    By law, any mention of this beer must include this promo photo of Matt Kollaja (Breakside) and Maddy McCarthy (Von Ebert) as Kenny and Dolly:

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    #56 sharpski, May 24, 2022
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  17. HopHead84

    HopHead84 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,268) Nov 29, 2006 California
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    A $5 pint of saison seems unrealistic in 2022. If it exists, cherish it, but accept that it's ephemeral. Prices rise over time. Manage your expectations.
     
    #57 HopHead84, May 26, 2022
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  18. distantmantra

    distantmantra Pooh-Bah (2,954) May 23, 2011 Washington
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    Holy Mountain's Forbidden Fruit grapefruit saison was very nice, and only $4 a can.
     
    #58 distantmantra, May 26, 2022
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