Sacred Profane Brewing Launching Summer 2022

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  1. Jbrews

    Jbrews Pooh-Bah (2,214) Aug 6, 2013 New Hampshire
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    I’ve listened to her be condescending about hazy ipa’s on a podcast and you know it’s directed to a certain group. I guess everyone judges everyone. No one is perfect or the gospel. I like IPA’s and I like lager. I don’t feel I need to pick a side. I also don’t want to be judged for liking either or. Which is happening lately. Honestly it’s fucking beer, the shits not even good for you. Should just let it be and enjoy the dialogue. I think it’s deeper then not wanting to read the comments or answer. Also, most of the BA’s here offer some constructive criticism and no one here ever lashes out or tries to intentionally upset someone. It’s a good group.

    Now if you were ever on the old Bridge9 board forum….oof
     
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  2. BadBehaviorInVermont

    BadBehaviorInVermont Initiate (74) May 13, 2021

    Unpopular opinion but... I bet the beer will be good
     
  3. GonzoHomebrewer

    GonzoHomebrewer Savant (1,166) Sep 15, 2012 Massachusetts
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    Why would you think that would be an unpopular opinion? No one said the beer(s!) will be bad. We were discussing how well the 2 beer brew plan will be received by the manic, untappd driven ticking mentality of the modern beer consumer. Its weird to me how discussion = negativity.
     
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  4. mrmattosgood

    mrmattosgood Maven (1,301) Nov 6, 2010 Canada (BC)

    Seemed like sarcasm to me.

    In any case, discussion is great. I just think there was some element of mistrust in the business plan and I think that irritated some people, including myself, because I found it unwarranted. After all, these are two thoughtful, successful individuals in their chosen field.

    That said, I still stand by we should be able to take things at face value and appreciate them for what they are, and not what they are not.

    The beer will be great. 12 packs to go? Sign me up!
     
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  5. mrmattosgood

    mrmattosgood Maven (1,301) Nov 6, 2010 Canada (BC)

    I don’t know how I missed this post, but I thought this was a good summation of this particular band of BA’s.
     
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  6. Jbrews

    Jbrews Pooh-Bah (2,214) Aug 6, 2013 New Hampshire
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    After listening to her last appearance on a podcast I find it odd there is no bar, it’s not a taproom and it’s more of an “experience”

    So it’s a restaurant. Call it what you want but that’s what it is. Yeah I get tankpub. I surely will want to try it but I can’t but help hear a lot of undertones of NOT wanting “craft beer” focused people. Also doesn’t sound like somewhere you can just stop in for a beer and hang out. I’m trying hard to want to like the spot and ideas (before it’s even open) but there is so much cynicism it feels like unless you fit their mold they don’t want to cater to you. It’s bizarre

    But their money so their choices and rules.
     
  7. mhull

    mhull Zealot (521) Apr 11, 2008 New Hampshire
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    Which podcast?
     
  8. Jbrews

    Jbrews Pooh-Bah (2,214) Aug 6, 2013 New Hampshire
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    I gotta go back and find the name.

    What was very interesting was her discussing some of the outcomes and her feelings on the last year and her posts. I give her some credit from seeing a different perspective and how she feels about the affect on the breweries. In relation to how it was handled. Not, what might have been done by the actors. That is what it is.

    Edit: Born on 3rd
     
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  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Thanks for providing that information.

    I listened to the podcast and it was interesting.

    I took note that when Brienne discussed the beer aspect she used the verbiage of “anti-craft beer movement”. I suppose that is an appropriate way to frame things?

    It sounded to me like you will go up to a “beer counter” to obtain your beer.

    Brienne then characterized what Sacred Profane will not be:

    · “not a taproom”

    · “not a craft brewery”

    · “not coming here to drink the beer”

    It will be interesting to see how well this is received by craft beer consumers.

    Cheers!
     
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  10. GonzoHomebrewer

    GonzoHomebrewer Savant (1,166) Sep 15, 2012 Massachusetts
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    So if its not a taproom, not a craft brewery and not for people going there to drink the beer, why does she care so much about people who do those things talking about Sacred Profane?


    And elements of mistrust? How is discussing whether only serving just two beers will be viable in this market "mistrust"? Considering the equipment, they are spending a lot more money than a normal start-up brewery would be on top of focusing on an incredibly niche demographic by their own admission; those are obstacles that are difficult no matter who is brewing the beer. And did I miss a post where anyone here directly criticized the brewers? Seemed to be the discussion focused primarily on serving just two beers.
     
  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I am going to assume that is a rhetorical question. Obviously I am not in a position to 'speak' for Brienne.
    That was the thrust of my discussion - will just serving a very limited number of beer brands be economically viable in today's craft beer scene? But since she seems “anti-craft beer" with this new business model, maybe there is a non-craft beer market for Sacred Profane?

    Cheers!
     
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  12. Jbrews

    Jbrews Pooh-Bah (2,214) Aug 6, 2013 New Hampshire
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    The non craft market wants to pop into a bar and have a few beers. Which is the opposite of what she intends it to be. I honestly don’t understand it the more she describes it. It seems actually very intolerant. Which I thought goes against everything she is against and wanting more tolerance. Unless you like IPA, innovation, questing the plan, like to sit at the bar, like visiting taprooms…It actually seems snootier than most wine bars. Which I didn’t think was possible
     
  13. shkin

    shkin Maven (1,305) Feb 6, 2011 New York

    My understanding is that they are modeling after Czech-style places like Lokál in Prague that serve only two beers (at least one of them is from a beer tank), and high-quality traditional food. Although great beer is one of the main reasons to visit Lokál, it is not a bar or taproom.
     
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  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I visited many pubs in the Czech Republic: Prague but also in Kutná Hora, Plzeň and Český Krumlov.

    One of the pubs I visited, drank beer and ate dinner, was Lokál U Bílé Kuželky in Prague.

    Of the many pubs I visited the majority served a variety of beer brands, not just two brands.

    One pub I visited was Zlý Časy (English translation - Bad Times) and that place had a cool vibe to it (see photos below)

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    There was quite a large selection of beer brands there. See link below for the current draft beer list:

    http://zlycasy.eu/index.php?page=2

    During my visit to Zlý Časy they had Únětické Pivo 12° (a Bohemian Pilsner) on tap which I really enjoyed. This pub visit planted a desire in my mind to visit this brewery later in the trip.

    During my visit to the Únětické brewery (and I took a brewery tour too!) I had several draft mugs of beer, three different brands. There were a total of four brands being served in the beer garden.

    Below is a photo of the beer garden and a photo of one of the beers, a ½ liter mug of Únětické Pivo 12°.

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    Na Zdravi

    @Jbrews
     
  15. shkin

    shkin Maven (1,305) Feb 6, 2011 New York

    Zlý Časy is a great Americanized bar, not a traditional Czech-style place, while Lokál is. If you check their current menu, there are only Plzeň, světlý ležák and Náš Kozel černý nefiltrovaný, that's it. With high-quality beer and food, the chain is also very successful.
     
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  16. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I would disagree with that characterization. Not a thing (food, ambiance, etc.) in that place was "Americanized" from my perspective. It felt very 'old world' to me. I would call it a Prague Pub. I would also call Lokál U Bílé Kuželky a Prague Pub.

    Feel free to disagree here.

    Na Zdravi
     
  17. shkin

    shkin Maven (1,305) Feb 6, 2011 New York

    I respectfully disagree. Zlý Časy serves burgers with fries and has 5 IPAs on the menu, what can be less Americanized? Of course, it also has more traditional food and beer, but it doesn't make it traditional. On the other hand, Lokál tries to focus only on Czech food and serves just two beers. Maybe for a short-time visitor, it's hard to see the difference. To clarify, my only point here was that you can serve two beers and be successful if you do it right.

    PS Fun fact: I used to live within walking distance from Zlý Časy except it opened about 5 years after I left Prague. It was the first place my friends took me when I visited a few years back.
     
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  18. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    The Schnitzel I ate there tasted "traditional" to me.

    As I already stated above: "Feel free to disagree here".
     
  19. Jbrews

    Jbrews Pooh-Bah (2,214) Aug 6, 2013 New Hampshire
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    I do get the concept and what it is.

    But the attitude and how it’s being presented it at times brash to say the least. Also would be good to hear more from Fava as she tends to dominate the discussions on it. It should be equal right? Not sure Biddeford is the clientele but we shal see.

    I do for sure, have 0 doubt that both beers will be absolutely delicious. I think they are both going to truly nail their styles. It will be nice to hear how their influence and work shaped each beer. Both are equally equipped on their own.
     
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  20. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Maybe he will participate in a podcast (or article interview) someday?

    Cheers!
     
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