Schell's Response to the Brewer's Association

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  1. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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  2. Sesmu

    Sesmu Pundit (768) Feb 28, 2007 Massachusetts

    Does anybody have a copy of the original pdf? I didn't download it when it was up. For purely historical reasons :rolling_eyes:
     
  3. Chaz

    Chaz Grand Pooh-Bah (3,668) Feb 3, 2002 Minnesota
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  4. mintjellie

    mintjellie Initiate (0) Oct 2, 2005 Canada (ON)

    Because brewers can build the water profile to fit any beer they desire to make.
     
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  5. Stahlsturm

    Stahlsturm Initiate (0) Mar 21, 2005 Germany
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    You seriously believe that ?
     
  6. mjryan

    mjryan Pooh-Bah (1,571) Dec 22, 2007 Minnesota
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    Well it's true, so I'm sure he seriously believes it.
     
  7. Stahlsturm

    Stahlsturm Initiate (0) Mar 21, 2005 Germany
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    I'd like to know more about this.
     
  8. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    For starters, there is Chapter 8 "Water", which is (mostly) available in the Google Book's free preview of The Handbook of Brewing (or just about any other professional brewing text).

     
  9. TheFunGuy

    TheFunGuy Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2011 Virginia

    I enjoy their Carmel Bock, Grain Belt not so much. Therefore I have no dog in the fight on either side.

    I can see the small guys wanting to claim they are quality, and excluding the huge mega corps. In this case, though, they seem to be eating a fellow small guy for no good reason other than an arbitrary rule attempt to exclude the huge guys. The huge guys are tricky, with the attempts to market as a small, craft brewery. However, that does not justify the attack on Schell.
     
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  10. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    There are several homebrewing books that cover this to some extent. It needs deeper coverage of some material, so John Palmer is covering it in the book I mentioned above. The basics are in his online book howtobrew.com under chapter 15.

    There are online programs that help you determent water chemistry for the beer being brewed. I find it easy to start with RO water and build from almost pure H2O (RO is cheaper than distilled). Many breweries use RO water and adjust. Stone and Firestone-Walker are 2 examples in the USA.

    Read the water knowledge section here if you wish.
    https://sites.google.com/site/brunwater/water-knowledge
     
  11. rnorgart

    rnorgart Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2005 South Carolina

    Ok,from that top 10 list, I know Gambrinus is Shiner. But what is the heck is Matt?
     
  12. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    [quote="rnorgart, post: 768625, member:]Ok,from that top 10 list, I know Gambrinus is Shiner. But what is the heck is Matt?[/quote]
    FX Matt Utica NY. Saranac brand amongst others..
     
  13. chinabeergeek

    chinabeergeek Pooh-Bah (1,837) Aug 10, 2007 Massachusetts
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    perhaps most significantly for craft fans: new amsterdam and brooklyn
     
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  14. Feel_the_Darkness

    Feel_the_Darkness Initiate (0) Oct 17, 2012 Virginia

    We don't get Schell in my neck of the woods. But I respect this man for sticking his neck out and stating his opinions. I however, will support any and all Yuengling endeavors. Always keep a stock of their lager in the fridge, can't beat it.
     
  15. MacNCheese

    MacNCheese Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2011 California

    I wonder if BA will blacklist so many makers of west-coast style IPA/DIPA that use sugar to...lighten the body while retaining high alcohol! Vinnie has the homebrew version of PtE available via .pdf and you must use adjuncts if you want to high that alcohol/lighter body/high hoppiness.
     
  16. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Hops extract too. Saw Sinimar in the pub brewery. The horror.

    That being said, RR is my favorite Brewpub in the US. Got to get back.
     
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  17. AWolfAtTheDoor

    AWolfAtTheDoor Initiate (0) Oct 30, 2005 Washington

    The main reason that is it such a non-existant topic is because a) it is highly technical, and b) is only of interest to people actually brewing beer. This forum is for beer advocacy, not home brewing. There are much better homebrewing forums out there if that's what you are interested in.
     
  18. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Beer Advocate has a home brewing forum.

    So you don't have interest in how beer is made?
     
  19. mjryan

    mjryan Pooh-Bah (1,571) Dec 22, 2007 Minnesota
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    An excellent homebrewing forum at that.
     
  20. bigflatsbeerman

    bigflatsbeerman Zealot (665) Nov 2, 2005 New York

    Thanks for posting,very good history lesson from Schells.
     
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