NBS BIF #17 Hints and Hauls: Subaru Drivers Won't Keep Us From Our Magic Water Breakfast

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  1. snaotheus

    snaotheus Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,924) Oct 6, 2008 Washington
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    I arbitrarily checked out @Roguer scores from more than five years ago against scores after that date
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  2. snaotheus

    snaotheus Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,924) Oct 6, 2008 Washington
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    ?
    You can buy me a beer sometime :slight_smile:
     
  3. Whyteboar

    Whyteboar Grand Pooh-Bah (4,286) Jun 7, 2008 Michigan
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    It's about a 2 1/2 hour drive so I seldom get there. I do see a decent selection of their canned beers and a few of their bombers up here, but nothing like what Mike sent. I may need to look into membership or something!
     
  4. colts9016

    colts9016 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,391) Jul 2, 2007 Idaho
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    Yup
     
  5. colts9016

    colts9016 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,391) Jul 2, 2007 Idaho
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    The Appalachian trail is 2190 miles. 230 of those miles is in Pennsylvania.
     
  6. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    Interesting to note the similarity in the curves. In terms of raw numbers, I've overall reviewed more beers in the last 5 years than I did in the first 5. Those reviews do tend to be skewed a touch higher - I've reviewed more beers overall, but the crossover point is around 3.6.

    So how does one explain the data? Well, in my case - like many of us, I suspect - I started my beer journey with "worse" beers. Most of us have all reviewed the basic AALs already (or are unlikely to do so), so those are low ratings that are much more likely to occur early in one's BA "career." Involvement in things like BIFs improves access to better beer (just look at the amount of Tree House that flies around). And then finally, access to great beer has significantly improved just about everywhere in the last five years.

    I'm curious if anyone's curves go in the opposite direction: lower scores, or more frequent low scores, over time. Even if one's individual grading goes down (I suspect mine actually has), those other factors might well outweigh that impact.

    Looking at my own as an example, my top 50 scores are an almost perfect split, using the 5 year mark as a line of demarcation, with the more recent 5 years getting a very slight edge. (You wouldn't guess that from the graph above - although if you know that it takes at least a 4.63 to crack my top 50, I guess you would guess that from the graph above!)

    But what makes up those top 50 reviews?

    Old me: plenty of classics, like PtE, Firestone Anniversary (already discussed here :wink: ), and Hill Farmstead ... but some other brews I might not rate quite so high now, if reviewing for the very first time, including the Holy Trinity of Trappists (Chimay Blue, Westmalle Tripel, and Rochefort 10 - and Pannepot is up there, as well), and two iterations of Enjoy By. Worse, Jai Alai has the same top 50 score of 4.63, and there's absolutely no way I would rate it that high now (it's tied with Triple Sunshine, so ... yeah).

    What about new me? Well, just look at the breweries being represented in that top 50 (thanks, BIF!): Tree House, Angry Chair, Cigar City El Catador, Kane, Barreled Souls, Transient, Anchorage ... I mean, wow. That's freaking killer. It's no wonder the more recent 5 years has a slight edge in scoring, even if I don't score as high now as I did then (a good snapshot of this is to qualitatively assess the amount of "green" versus "red" in your rDevs; I used to have a lot more green). I've had access to world class beer, and had plenty more sent my way via generous BAs.

    I love these data calls. It's even more fun for me to dig into them and figure out what, if anything, it all means.

     
  7. JayORear

    JayORear Grand Pooh-Bah (3,058) Feb 22, 2012 California
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    Wait … yes, but also, the driving distance between Idaho Falls and Paupack is also, improbably, 2190 miles. That is insane.
     
  8. woemad

    woemad Grand Pooh-Bah (5,601) Jun 8, 2003 Washington
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    My BA arc is somewhat similar.

    When I first stumbled across BA, there wasn't much beer regionally, let alone locally (Noli's ancestor, Northern Lights, was literally the only game in town), so I drank a lot more non-local and international beers. A lot of the latter have since been crowded out of the local market as many more local and regional choices have become available (and independent local distributors have been bought out or gone bankrupt), but there's now a plentiful flow of local and regional beers, and more and more places serving them.
     
  9. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    That's absolutely bonkers!
     
  10. woemad

    woemad Grand Pooh-Bah (5,601) Jun 8, 2003 Washington
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    Another future BIF title: Improbable statistical connections.
     
  11. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    I think most of us, especially those of us who have been reviewing for several years, will have something similar.

    Of course, with more local beer, there's also an influx of more bad local beer ... but I'd say that's overwhelmed by the greater access.

    I could try a brand new brewery I've never visited that's 30 minutes away ... or I could go to Fox Farm. Of course I still visit new breweries, but there's no point to try their entire lineup if you're unimpressed.

    Then there's the shelves. I get a lot of Lawson's now. 12% Beer Project in New Haven is improving the distro on a ton of breweries that used to be PA or NY based (or entirely gypsy). Overall distro has gotten dramatically better (some of that, albeit, due to corporate buyouts by bigger companies).

    I have zero desire to try the next "innovation" from the Bud Light series. (I mean, I'd tick it if it's in front of me ... ) Not when I can try the next Tree House IPA.
     
  12. JayORear

    JayORear Grand Pooh-Bah (3,058) Feb 22, 2012 California
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    Also, the main reason I’d not considered your clues before now is that it used to be that our overlords wouldn’t pair the same senders as each other!
     
  13. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Psh. This BIF is under new management.
     
  14. JayORear

    JayORear Grand Pooh-Bah (3,058) Feb 22, 2012 California
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    Clearly.
     
  15. DavyJonesXXX

    DavyJonesXXX Pooh-Bah (2,848) Aug 6, 2021 Texas
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    Thank you! @WunderLlama I'm about to pop a top on 1 of these bad boys.
     
  16. Rug

    Rug Grand Pooh-Bah (3,454) Aug 20, 2018 Massachusetts
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    Yup! 10.72% of my reviews are from Tree House. Rookie numbers tbh
     
  17. Rug

    Rug Grand Pooh-Bah (3,454) Aug 20, 2018 Massachusetts
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    Winner winner beer for dinner! It's almost like you knew the entire time :wink:
     
  18. sulldaddy

    sulldaddy Grand Pooh-Bah (5,716) Apr 6, 2003 Connecticut
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    Dont blame me I voted for Kang!!
     
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  19. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Amazing hit, @ovaltine !!
     
  20. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    :rofl::rofl:

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