After the Drain-Pour, What Then?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by seakayak, Aug 7, 2023.

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After the Drain-Pour, What Then?

  1. Take the loss, never buy again

    55 vote(s)
    66.3%
  2. Take the loss, keep buying

    9 vote(s)
    10.8%
  3. Return them to the store

    6 vote(s)
    7.2%
  4. Contact the brewery

    28 vote(s)
    33.7%
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  1. ilikebeer03

    ilikebeer03 Pooh-Bah (2,616) Oct 17, 2012 Texas
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    I said "Toss them, keep buying" and "Contact the brewery". Those are probably my most common approaches.

    Ex. recently, a new brewery popped up near me. Bought an IPA and pils from first canning run. Obviously oxidized. I contacted the brewery (they were happy to make things right, but really, i just wanted them to be aware) and waited a while before buying again. Figured they'd need a run or two to dial in the system. Haven't had a bad beer from them sense.

    Some breweries, on the other hand, have been serial offenders. Those, I won't buy from again.
     
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  2. Ozzylizard

    Ozzylizard Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,419) Oct 5, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    Seven over the years? That's probably not a bad average. Having a near-by rep who responds is priceless! Lucky you!
     
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  3. seakayak

    seakayak Pooh-Bah (1,823) May 20, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Ozzy, you're right, when I counted my drain-pours, I thought hmm, less than 1%, so that's not too bad. The rep was like a beer-Santa Claus knocking on my door with presents! Plus he was stoked to try the beers I gave him from a recent trip to Ohio - Head Hunter, White Rajah, and Whole Hog Pumpkin Ale. Couldn't have worked out better! :beers:
     
  4. seakayak

    seakayak Pooh-Bah (1,823) May 20, 2007 Massachusetts
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    I emailed the brewery about this drain-pour, and they responded immediately, asking for a photo of the canning info printed on the bottom of the can, which I sent. They invited me to their taproom where they'll replace my purchase. I'd love to visit, but it's unlikely because of the distance.

    Thanks to everyone for your poll feedback - it kept me from calling the retailer, which was my first instinct. Anyone want some free beer? :beers:
     
  5. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    I have a septic system and a garden, so I don't drain pour - any defective or out of code/bad tasting beer goes into the compost piles.

    Well, I say making you drive a "distance" to replace a defective beer is BS, if you bought it at a local retailer. Imagine such a situation with any other consumer product:

    Sideview mirror fell off your year old Chevy? "Thank you for contacting GM. Yes, that is under warranty of course. Come by the assembly plant outside Detroit and we'll put a new one on at no charge."

    Cellphone manufacturer: "Oh, sorry to hear about your problem, just bring it by our factory in Shenzhen and we'll be happy to repair or replace!"

    They either have a local distributor or the brewery self-distributes - either way, it is one of those companies that should tell the retailer to replace your beer which they, in turn, will credit or replace for the retailer.
     
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  6. MistaRyte

    MistaRyte Pooh-Bah (2,681) Jan 14, 2008 Virginia
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    Only 2 true drainpours/beer in the sh!tcan
    1. Crazy Eds Chile Beer - disgusting
    2. DFH Festina Peche... I think I just had this too early in craft beer career (recall it tasting like bile at the time) Retrying it a few years ago I found it mild compared to other sours.

    So it depends. But seeing I paid for the beer, I will suffer through the average/below average beer and make it a chore.
     
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  7. seakayak

    seakayak Pooh-Bah (1,823) May 20, 2007 Massachusetts
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    So after reading your thoughts, I called the retailer. They said the brewer would be responsible for any refunds, and thanked me for letting them know. :unamused:
     
  8. seakayak

    seakayak Pooh-Bah (1,823) May 20, 2007 Massachusetts
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    So anyway, out of consideration I didn't disclose any specific info about the brewery or the retailer. The brewer invited me to northern Vermont to replace my purchase ($38), and the retailer told me to contact the brewer.

    I'll take that into consideration the next time I consider purchasing McLighty's from Zero Gravity, or going to Julio's Liquor in Westborough, MA. Maybe you should too. :beers:
     
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  9. NickTheGreat

    NickTheGreat Maven (1,470) Oct 28, 2010 Iowa
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    I bought beer at the store once that was super over-carbonated. The can was tight like a drum, and pouring 1/2" in a glass resulted in a full cup of foam. I didn't notice until getting home and drinking it a few days later.

    Months later, that brewery was doing a sampling in another store, and I actually mentioned it to the guy. He was very apologetic and offered to make it right with me if I brought it into the brewery. I never did, because I'm lazy, but I appreciated the offer.

    I still buy beer from those guys, but I am much more careful with dates and definitely squeeze their cans first.
     
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  10. seakayak

    seakayak Pooh-Bah (1,823) May 20, 2007 Massachusetts
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    So unsatisfying...

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  11. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    But that's not what I suggested.
    Contact the brewery (again) - they brewed the defective beer - or contact their area distributor (the brewery's official rep in your region) and have them replace the beer, either by telling the retailer to accept the return and they'll make it up to them OR have the distributor give it to you.

    Sure, it's a PITA and maybe won't work and most of us (me included) just say "Ah, !@#$ it! But these jokers just lost a customer and I'm gonna name the suckers who refuse to stand behind their beer in that BA thread I started..."

    But sometimes it works. Why about 45 years ago now [right? :rolling_eyes: ] I was served an old, out-of-code and lightstruck bottle of Ballantine Ale and the bar gave me a hard time when I mentioned it (back then many people didn't know the date code Falstaff or other brewers used :grin: of course, but I did).

    So, annoyed, I wrote a letter (kinda like an email, but printed on paper and put in a stamped envelope) to the distributor. Or maybe I called and got the right guy (which wasn't common)?

    Anyway, we had a nice conversation about the new Ballantine Brewers Gold Ale Falstaff had just released (and, IIRC, also about Schlitz's new Erlanger). And the rep asked me for my address and a few days later he delivered a case of Ballantine Brewers Gold Ale to me.:astonished: (Not bad for 1 bad bottle). I can still remember looking out my front door as the rep walked up the steps carrying that case of beer. :smiley:
     
  12. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I guess this means you are keeping those beers. If so, can you open a can from the other 12 pack to see if it's the same?

    :smile:
     
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  13. seakayak

    seakayak Pooh-Bah (1,823) May 20, 2007 Massachusetts
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    I cracked a couple from the unopened pack - they're shite too. :unamused:
     
  14. Drunken_Master

    Drunken_Master Crusader (444) Mar 6, 2014 California

    I chose the same. Good example: Agave Maria (when it was still around)

    Was holding onto one for a bit and after reading up from others that it was potentially done for, I tried it and yeah, it was bad. Sucks never got to retry (sold to a TBD entity at the time, can probably find out who now but not looked into it) as that was a great libation.
     
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  15. ilikebeer03

    ilikebeer03 Pooh-Bah (2,616) Oct 17, 2012 Texas
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    I let breweries know. I assume they'd want to know about a subpar product of theirs in the market. I know I would. I always explain, I'm not looking for a refund / replacement, etc. I just want them to know. Because, again, I'd want to know.

    Some don't ever respond.

    Some are very concerned, apologetic, and want to make the situation right.

    As I write this, though, I'm reminded of the one time I did accept a breweries offer of a replacement 6er. Chose their least expensive 6er. Dude just ghosted me. Haven't bought anything from that brewery since.
     
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