Barleywine Appreciation Thread (2023)

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  1. VodkaPong87

    VodkaPong87 Pooh-Bah (2,060) Oct 9, 2020 Connecticut
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    This latest Deep Wood series seems like a big miss for me. Not bothering to get any of them. Hopefully the November lot is more impressive
     
  2. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    I like the sound of this lineup, can't wait to try the other two.
     
  3. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Having Brew 3000 from Fremont, a little over 4 years old at this point. Some silly stout-swilling sods suggest (looking at you @Resistance88 ) that these Brew K's are too sweet. I say, if it's too sweet, you're too surly:heavymetal:

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    I've had 6k and 5k fresh and 5k around a year old, loved them all. This is tasting fantastic right now, glad I get to try this with some age on it. It is more fruit forward than the others I've tried. There is still plenty of caramel, toffee, vanilla, and bourbon to be sure. But the raisin is more pronounced and there is a lovely plum pudding note here. I'm also getting some maple syrup at the finish. The carbonation is light but this beer has great legs and a wonderfully sticky body. Hard to imagine this improving from here, if you have one I'd say open it relatively soon.
     
  4. VodkaPong87

    VodkaPong87 Pooh-Bah (2,060) Oct 9, 2020 Connecticut
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    Get any 7k? Mine will be a holiday treat
     
  5. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Tried to resist and failed, I have some coming. Just too damn good.
     
  6. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,462) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    One of the worst beer series's's's's's' i ever had.
     
  7. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    The door is that way>>>>>:rage:

    :sunglasses:
     
  8. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,462) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    @DIM look a barleywine
    with coffee and coconut AKA sunblock
    A Strong Ale is a Barleywine...change my mind
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  9. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Nah I agree, kind of a pointless catch-all style. You liking that at all? Doesn't sound great to me but coconut can be really good in the right hands.
     
  10. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,462) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    sometimes you gotta takexone for the team and drink some Hawaiian Tropic Tanning Oil:nauseated_face:
    Need some more melanin and doctor said this would help . Maybe after drinking this I'll be the best bodyboarder at El Porto!

    * i got a shitload of BL beers from a generous BA and said i would drink them all no matter what. Gave away 16 bottles and kept the rest to be guinea pig.
     
  11. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    A Munichwine is also a barleywine, right? Here's one from Private Press and Cellarmaker. Limitations - a bourbon barrel aged munichwine ale brewed with honey.

    Poured from a bottle at fridge temp. Pours a very dark brown with almost zero head. The nose is great, although a little subdued. Getting toffee, vanilla, bourbon, plums, raisins, honey.

    The taste is super smooth. I was honestly expected something cloying with honey being added to the brew. Not even close. This is pretty mellow on the taste as well, with very little indication of higher ABV. Crazy. Getting honey, caramel, molasses, french toast, brown sugar, and pears. Lovely beer!

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  12. tdm168

    tdm168 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,360) Aug 10, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    I love barleywine, but due to availability and price point I don't have as many as I would like. This Winter Jetlag from Triple Crossing was gifted to me recently. I have no idea what year it's from. It's a BBA English barleywine with vanilla. It's surprisingly subdued at 12%. Thin at first with brown sugar, dark fruit, toffee, vanilla, and caramel all coming out. There's just a slight alcohol burn in the finish. Not nearly as sweet as I would have expected. If it had a fuller mouthfeel this would be extraordinary. As is it's just solid.

    Cheers!
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  13. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Welcome! Barleywine is an expensive mistress for sure. There are a few reasonably priced options beyond the standbys like Bigfoot and Old Stock I found in PA over the last year or so. Komes barleywine from Poland is around $5 for 500ml, 3 Floyd's BA Behemoth is around $25/ 4pack, East End Gratitude $18/pack and $20/ pack for different BA options.

    Happy hunting and please let me know if you find anything else interesting in our state. Great glass btw!

    Cheers!
     
  14. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Well, a "Munich wine" is still a wine made from barley, right? Um, never mind.

    Let me search on the 'net instead. Hmmm, turns out that there's a long of history of wine in Munich...

    Oh wait, wrong turn. This is the stuff:
    So a "Munichwine" is a barley wine according to the brewer. Whew! I was starting to get nervous that I was going to have to trade to complete my style ticks!

    Coincidentally, I also "quietly created" a bunch of new styles in my garage by focusing on specific malts. I've called these new styles: Viennawine, Biscuitwine, Caramelwine, and Chocolatewine. My wife thinks I'm pushing my luck with the last one. She thinks it's a confusing name, but I'm trying to explain to her that the name "chocolatewine" states exactly what it is. I smushed the words together to avoid confusion. She doesn't get it. I'm just trying to be transparent as a producer!! (Well, to be honest, I really just want to claim that I've made a lot of "first evers.")

    The one thing I can't relate to though, is the brewer's choice of bourbon and grape brandy barrels. That's like baking different breads with different types of flour, and then saying, "In order for you to appreciate the differences that the flour choices had in the finished breads, I've prepared peanut butter and grape jelly sandwiches with the different breads."
     
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  15. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Can you cite anything commercially available that resembles your home spun styles? I'm very intrigued.

    Blended barrels can be a wonderful melding of flavors rather than a strange clash. I think a better baking analogy would be marble rye bread, or a mixed fruit pie.
     
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  16. M-Fox24

    M-Fox24 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,941) Mar 17, 2013 New Jersey
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    Brad’s intent with Private Press (PP) is to continuously develop/improve the cellar via growing the threads & improving the blends = Each iteration is a new interpretation: “batch 2 blends are not the same as batch 1


    This might give some a better understanding, of what Brad is trying to achieve -

     
  17. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    As I was posting, I asked myself, "Should I add a winky face? Tone can be so easily misinterpreted. Nah, no need. I'm laying the humor on so thick... there's no way anybody will think my post is totally serious." As usual, I was wrong. :wink::slight_smile:
    You misinterpreted my meaning. I wasn't making a joke because of the two barrels (although that just added to it). I was saying this because adding that stuff is a bad way to present the differences in the breads. The baker should just let the person taste the bread instead of making a sandwich. :slight_smile:

    That's perfectly fine. In my opinion, when it comes to the experience they are marketing/selling to the consumer, the tremendous marketing emphasis they place on their choice of malt percentages is somewhat at odds with their choices in execution with the beer as whole. I can easily see how someone would disagree with me or see my take as nonsense. I’m also not silly enough to think that there would be enough demand for a “Munichwine” without gilding the lily with grape brandy. :wink:

    If we change the beer style in the example to emphasize how this plays into style expectations and consumer acceptance. Imagine a brewer developing a new hop variety called Solar (just play along :wink:), then marketing a single hop beer called Solar IPA, calling special attention to it being a first of its kind, and then also putting mango puree in the beer. I think a good part of the IPA crowd would say, “I wanted to try that beer until I read about the puree.” There would be a perceived disconnect between the drinking experience being marketed and the recipe follow through. :slight_smile:
     
  18. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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  19. M-Fox24

    M-Fox24 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,941) Mar 17, 2013 New Jersey
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    The quote was to highlight the process, but to address Munich Wine specifically, and to address Brad’s approach: Grape Brandy Barrel(s) ≠ a chemical addition. Granted, a non-barrel aged interpretation would be a better platform, for a distinctive grain bill…irrespective of the outcome; however, this is not the envisioned plan

     
  20. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    I have Jackie O's on the brain lately. This is from 2020, Double Barrel Brick Kiln, aged in bourbon barrels (12 months) and sherry bourbon finished casks (6 months).

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    I love Jackie O's barleywines but this one doesn't quite come together for me. The Sherry is prominent and that dried, spiced fruit wine note doesn't allow much room for the bourbon forward, brown sugary base beer I love so much. There is some oaky tobacco, potpourri like spice, an almost hot, vinous note, green grapes skin, and just a little sweet bourbon at the finish. The body thinner than is typical from Jackie O's.
     
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