Why do beers from the same brewery taste so similar?

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  1. PolskaKielbasia

    PolskaKielbasia Zealot (509) Dec 24, 2018 Minnesota

    My local liquor store was offloading Revolution Brewing variety boxes for $16 so I grabbed one. One thing I've noticed is that all 4 IPAs in the pack taste so similar... like it's really hard for me to tell the beers apart despite being different styles. They all smelled almost exactly the same and have nearly the same ABV. One of the IPAs was a hazy, two were American-style IPAs, and one was a cold IPA.

    I noticed the same exact thing with Deschutte's a few weeks ago. I bought their variety IPA pack and there was some "same-ish" underlying quality to all the beers despite supposedly being different styles. Same thing with Sierra Nevada and even a few local breweries here as well.

    Consider two different IPAs like Bell's Two Hearted (American IPA) and Toppling Goliath King Sue (Hazy IPA). I can tell those two apart in an instant from their smell. But when a single brewery brews the different style IPAs, the differences seem way less pronounced.

    Am I go crazy here?
     
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  2. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    My local brews a lot of different styles, they don't all taste the same. Better take on how a style ought to taste? Dunno. But they're firing on all cylinders.
     
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  3. GOBLIN

    GOBLIN Pooh-Bah (2,676) Mar 3, 2013 Ohio
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  4. crazyspicychef

    crazyspicychef Pooh-Bah (2,341) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    A lot of IPA's taste the same to me.
    Probably their yeast, or they just use the same hops in all of their IPA's?
     
  5. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Probably the house yeast.
     
  6. NorsemanOne

    NorsemanOne Pooh-Bah (2,331) Sep 17, 2021 Utah
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    Palate fatigue?
     
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  7. Troy-Hawaii

    Troy-Hawaii Pooh-Bah (1,985) Jun 15, 2015 Hawaii
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    If you make a small change in your product and then label it differently people will buy it as a new product even though it may be basically the same as the rest. So the basic ingredients may be the same and thus taste very similar.
     
  8. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    It's the same cook in the same kitchen. :wink:
     
  9. Shanex

    Shanex Grand Pooh-Bah (4,960) Dec 10, 2015 France
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    You’re not crazy, SN beers have a feel to them, Founders beers have a feel. A distinct, unique taste. Yep, the same cook and same kitchen analogy works fine.
     
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  10. AZgman

    AZgman Pooh-Bah (1,858) Dec 22, 2011 Arizona
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    They each have a different label though... :wink:
     
  11. LAFreeway

    LAFreeway Zealot (669) Aug 2, 2023 California

    Like others have said, yeast tends to impart a house character. Also, there’s not a whole lot of difference between a lager yeast used for a “cold” IPA and a clean fermenting ale yeast like the one Sierra Nevada uses.
    I just checked the tap list at Beachwood Brewing, which is local to me, they have 6 ipa’s that are all at 7.1% ABV I think they use the same grain bill and yeast on all of these beers and just switch up the hops, so they are going to taste very similar.
    I find that a lot of the modern hops are pretty similar to each other. Hop breeders select the hybrids that present the most “tropical” flavors which are so popular at the moment.
     
  12. defunksta

    defunksta Grand Pooh-Bah (4,164) Jan 18, 2019 Wisconsin
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    As others have said a lot from the yeast most of the time. I've noticed this from Surly, and it's a pleasant surprise most of the time. Sierra Nevada though seems to have a characteristic hop and resinous pine soap flavor. It's simply the signature the brewery puts on the beer.
     
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  13. PolskaKielbasia

    PolskaKielbasia Zealot (509) Dec 24, 2018 Minnesota

    I was going to mention Surly! Definitely one of the bigger offenders, but it's a fairly regional brewery so I left it off my list.
     
  14. JayORear

    JayORear Grand Pooh-Bah (3,058) Feb 22, 2012 California
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    It's why I eventually stopped buying Lagunitas; the house yeast was too sugary and cloying for my taste.
     
  15. LAFreeway

    LAFreeway Zealot (669) Aug 2, 2023 California

    Me too; I could never get into their IPAs no matter how hard I tried. The combination of a yeast that doesn’t attenuate well along with the fruityness the yeast imparts is way too much for me, but most people I know like it.
    I have liked their stouts and brown ales though.
     
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  16. Amendm

    Amendm Pooh-Bah (2,601) Jun 7, 2018 Rhode Island
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    [They all smelled almost exactly the same and have nearly the same ABV. One of the IPAs was a hazy, two were American-style IPAs, and one was a cold IPA.[/QUOTE]

    Was the Hazy not as juicy smelling as usual and/or was the AIPAs juicy for the style?

    No offense intended, for me American and New England IPAs are usually very different, even when they are from the same brewery. I realize that "Neighboring" styles often have blurred lines, that is why I'm thinking style "Creep", however I can't see why a NEIPA would smell the same as a Cold Brew. Inquiring minds, cheers.
     
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  17. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Some here have said house yeast, some have said one brewer. With smaller breweries it's likely a combination of the two.
     
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  18. Mikeloveshamms

    Mikeloveshamms Aspirant (275) May 9, 2021 Ohio

    I have experienced this as well, most. Notably Hoof Hearted brewery which is local to me. I was at their brewery last weekend and tried 4 of their Beers all IPAS. Each had a different ABV but I honestly could taste zero difference between the beers I had.
     
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  19. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Whole cone hops.
     
  20. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    A number of folks have opined house yeast but when it comes to the IPA beer style the yeast is very much a secondary contributor to the sensory qualities of the beer. For an IPA it is the hops which dominate the aroma/flavor of the beer. My guess is those four brands were brewed with similar hops(s).

    Cheers!
     
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