The future of craft brewing?

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  1. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Below is an interesting video interview with Sam Calagione and one topic was the future of craft brewing (trends) where Sam opines that the path to success for craft breweries is not to go for a broad distribution (e.g., national distribution) but instead serve a local market. He specifically discussed just having one brewery but serve directly to customers at satellite taprooms.

    I wonder how many states have laws to support to this business model?

    My understanding of the laws of my home state Pennsylvania is that for each brewery license the business can have three outlets for their beer (i.e., at the brewery plus two other taprooms).

    Maybe some of you have other ideas on how craft breweries can stay in business and perhaps even expand in the next couple/few years.

    Cheers!

     
  2. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    I think Sam’s strategy is sound for small/new brewers. Have one primary site and then set up some low cost/low overhead satellite taprooms and keep all of your profits with no middleman charges (from retail or bars/restaurants). And your beer should always be fresh as well.
     
  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Do the laws of Maryland permit this? How many satellite locations are permitted per brewery license?

    Cheers!
     
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    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    Not 100% sure on # of satellites but Vanish brewery in Northern VA just opened a satellite taproom joined in with a pizza shop in Frederick MD, so I guess it’s allowable under MD law.
     
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  5. muck1979

    muck1979 Zealot (555) Jul 3, 2005 Minnesota

    Minnesota allows one taproom per brewing company. Surly had to close their original taproom in Brooklyn Center when they opened their production brewery/brew hall in Minneapolis. Other Minnesota breweries like Lift Bridge have opened taprooms across the river in Wisconsin to be able to expand and get around the limit.
     
  6. woodchipper

    woodchipper Grand Pooh-Bah (3,735) Oct 25, 2005 Connecticut
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    Sam's plan sounds a lot like Tree House. Just replace all the words "small" with "huge".
     
  7. Hockeyguy

    Hockeyguy Aspirant (243) Jul 9, 2021 Texas

    Not sure if it's still this way, but at one point Oklahoma required BJ's restaurant, which brewed in most of their locations, to sell their own beer to a distributor then buy it back to sell in their own house. Oklahoma has fixed a lot of their bizarre laws as regards retail sale of beer, but they still seem to be behind the curve. I live in Texas, but have family in the OkC area (my nephew is a serious beer nerd, my BiL is a chef).
     
  8. DavetotheB

    DavetotheB Grand Pooh-Bah (4,241) Sep 30, 2017 Pennsylvania
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    Huh. Didn't know this. Does this still apply if you open a satellite in another state? Off the top of my head I can't think of a PA brewery that has done that. There are two breweries in my area that have opened or plan to open satellite locations (in state).
     
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  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I would suspect that if a PA brewery wanted to open a taproom to sell their beer (i.e., not brew the beer there) in another state they would need to pay for the proper alcohol license to sell their beer there.

    The benefit for just selling PA brewed beer at another taproom outlet in PA is that an additional license is not required.

    Cheers!
     
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  10. ChicagoJ

    ChicagoJ Grand Pooh-Bah (5,247) Feb 2, 2015 Illinois
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    https://www.voodoobrewery.com/locations

    VooDoo has five locations in Pennsylvania, perhaps the have multiple licenses filed with the state. They also franchise locations and own two out of state locations, the second a newly opened taproom in Las Vegas the Arts District which I plan to visit next month.

    In Illinois, breweries are allowed up to 0-3 brewpub / taproom locations depending on which of the three brewery licenses they hold. In Wisconsin breweries are limited to two locations. Not sure of Indiana laws, but 18th Street has two locations (Gary & Hammond).
     
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  11. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    He left out:
    "Just sell out to one of the largest multi-million barrel Hard Seltzer/FMB/Ice Tea/(Some)Beer companies in the country."
     
  12. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    From a combination of experience as an employee, and observation in NOT, and listening to a very similar complaint from a number of perspectives.
    Wide and shallow never worked for breweries. It guaranteed turnover at the most vital link necessary. Expanding still will need to be done organically. And prudently, without money being irresponsibly tied up in expenses that can't be managed. If you can self distribute. That's a whole lot money being saved, and a stronger relationship being built. If you can manage to generate most of your sales IN-HOUSE on top of that. Be smart, and don't get any funny ideas that a better more profitable market is out there. Breweries aren't portable. Taproom experiences aren't either. The most important customers an owner can have is the neighborhood the taproom is located in.
     
  13. Uberdachen

    Uberdachen Devotee (355) Jun 21, 2019 Minnesota
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    Omni got partially around it simply by opening a whole-ass winery and selling their draft beer there. So many easy options available.
     
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  14. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Pooh-Bah (2,353) Mar 19, 2012 California
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    Generally, I think that Sam's advice is sound. I'm finding that I'm buying less of the SN and FW size breweries and more of "local" breweries.
     
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  15. DogbiteWilliams

    DogbiteWilliams Zealot (647) Mar 28, 2015 California

    In the future I wonder if the New England Patriots owner might start Kraft Brewing.
     
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  16. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Will there be a back room where you can get a massage!?!:flushed:

    Cheers!
     
  17. DogbiteWilliams

    DogbiteWilliams Zealot (647) Mar 28, 2015 California

    That would be considered an adjunct.
     
  18. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Or should that be spelled add-junk!?!:stuck_out_tongue:

    Cheers!
     
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  19. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Also, start your brewery on the early 90s when the market isn't so saturated.
     
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  20. moodenba

    moodenba Pooh-Bah (2,502) Feb 2, 2015 New York
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    Problem is that you've been slaving away for 30 years, and now the value of your "sweat equity" has evaporated. There is nowhere to hide.
     
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