Tell us why you hate AAL beers

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by JackHorzempa, Feb 17, 2024.

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  1. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    @AlfromPA Yeah, that's what it was.

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  2. beerrat

    beerrat Pooh-Bah (1,739) Nov 28, 2013 Virginia
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    It is an American tradition. Why hate them? They are great for a bbq,super bowl party,setting at a bar for hours,etc. No real beer drinker will turn them down. Not many men will turn one down. most all men will enjoy them at a get together. Be happy and enjoy post prohibition American tradition.
     
  3. deanzaZZR

    deanzaZZR Maven (1,347) Jan 8, 2015 California

    In the 1980s California had Liquor Barn which sold a huge variety of imports sold as singles.
     
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  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Is it safe to say you have read the posts in this thread?

    A ‘summary’ for your consideration:

    “They taste like (goat, horse, gator) piss!

    They taste !@#$ing close to water.”

    For clarity, the above is not something I personally agree with.

    Cheers!
     
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  5. AlfromPA

    AlfromPA Zealot (613) Dec 9, 2021 Colorado

    Yes, I think there's a Blue Mountain near Jim Thorpe. In any case there's a "Blue Mountain Resort" up there. That's about 50 miles from Reading. Perhaps the mountain chain descends down to Reading. A hydrologist friend advised me not to drink the water from the streams in the mountains in Centre County (PA), but what the heck...
     
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  6. ChicagoJ

    ChicagoJ Grand Pooh-Bah (5,247) Feb 2, 2015 Illinois
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    Schlitz is one of the AALs brands I consider purchasing each Summer. Budweiser, Moosehead and Old Style are the others.

    RIP Michelob, OG Michelob Light and Fully Krausened Old Style, which they are not bringing back with their return to La Crosse. :angry:

    Kolsch, Pilsners, Saisons and Fruit Beers (New Glarus and Founders both have a few offerings) are the other lighter beer styles I enjoy picking up each Summer. I’ll still drink Pale Ales, IPAs and other styles, but they can feel heavy at times.

    I find many other AALs lack flavor, or lack a flavor I enjoy, so certainly understand the blanket dislike many have of the genre. Really don’t hate any type of beers or styles.
     
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  7. LeinenkugelDrinker

    LeinenkugelDrinker Pooh-Bah (2,211) Feb 14, 2023 Nevada
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    I enjoy Moosehead very much. It’s as good as any “craft” AAL I’ve had.
     
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  8. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Easy-peasy. There's never a time I want one.
     
  9. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Literally the only time I will drink one is if I'm out, like seeing a band, and somebody hands me one. It would be rude to refuse it, so, I drink it quickly, and head to the bar and grab something I'll actually enjoy.
     
  10. LeinenkugelDrinker

    LeinenkugelDrinker Pooh-Bah (2,211) Feb 14, 2023 Nevada
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    That unfortunately happens to me rather often. As I’m about to go grab a whiskey, bourbon, or something with vodka in it, somebody will toss me Bud or the like and I’ll be forced to smile and say “thank you”. It really sucks when they hand you a second, and then a third, but I make sure to get the fuck outta there before the fourth!
     
  11. DogbiteWilliams

    DogbiteWilliams Zealot (647) Mar 28, 2015 California

    To be fair to the pro-corn advocates, here is a list from Rate Beer of highly-rated beers brewed with corn. I do not recognize most of them, so I assume NONE of them are AALs.

    I am tickled by the Colonel Kernel name:

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/ratebeer/?path=/tag/corn/
     
  12. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    :grin:Yes, I'll vouch for this post - I remember reading and being perplexed by such contradictory opinions about AAL's and "Light Beer" often when I first came upon this website 20 years ago. Can't say I shared either one.

    :thinking_face: In fact, it's seems like only yesterday I was commenting about the same thing...:wink:
     
  13. Qu3st

    Qu3st Savant (1,205) Dec 4, 2015 Massachusetts
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    In general, I see AAL as an alcohol delivery system and not something with much merit past that. If beer remained unchanged but somehow all alcohol disappeared from them, I would still be a big fan and seek out new experiences and creative/skilled producers of them. I think many AAL drinkers would mostly stop consuming them and find another means to their end.
     
  14. Qu3st

    Qu3st Savant (1,205) Dec 4, 2015 Massachusetts
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    The use of corn syrup is likely the same reason it is common in a massive amount of food/drink. Corn prices are subsidized by tax dollars. Corn derivatives are some of the cheapest things you can use to make food/drink products and are generally the primary reason they are in use. A LOT of money has been spent to figure out how to use corn in as many ways as possible because of this fact. In a way, AAL is even more "American" as a result. We all contribute to its production ;p
     
  15. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Thanks for posting the list. A lot of interesting beers I had no idea had corn as one of the ingredients. That's probably because I really don't pick up any corn flavor in the flavor profile (of the beers on the list that I've sampled). With AALs, the corn flavor is typically very pronounced. I don't dislike corn per se, but it's not one of my favorite flavor components in beer. A lot of AALs I've sampled over the years, corn, creamed corn or canned corn flavors were often very pronounced. It's not unusual for corn and seltzer water to be almost the only flavors I pick up.
     
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  16. moodenba

    moodenba Pooh-Bah (2,502) Feb 2, 2015 New York
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    I don't think perceived "corn" flavor in beer is tied to corn-derived ingredients. A craft brewer describes tha role of corn in brewing: https://www.lowercasebrewing.com/beer-blog/what-is-corn-lager. He says the "corn" flavor is not due to corn, but a DMS presence due to flawed processing. I'm not aware of any chem. analysis that identifies corn-derived taste components in beer. In the 60s and 70s, most brewers used corn flakes or grits and/or rice, converting the starch in the cereal cooker. I really didn't notice any identifiable corn or rice taste, but really wasn't looking. Modern big beer AALs usually.have corn syrup. This is a fairly well refined product that is the sugar derived from corn starches that will be fully fermented to alcohol. Fermentation might be affected by the sugar balance, and affect flavor. But I'd guess that almost all the body in AALs is due to the malt component, as minimal as that has become.
     
  17. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Back in the early 2000s a friend was researching to open a brew-pub and we went to the restaurant show in Chicago to look at equipment and everything else.

    Miller Brewing had a booth pouring samples, so we opted to try and also chat with the reps.

    I'm not sure just which beer it was (probably MGD), but my first swallow was like eating a tortilla chip! I'd never experienced such clear corn flavor in a beer before, but wow -- there it was.

    Maybe because they had ultra fresh product for the show? Maybe a very clean palate? Dunno, but it was eye-opening.
     
  18. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    That might be difficult to prove since US lager brewer have been using corn since the 1860s, including glucose (what was once called 'grape sugar') "made commercially in this country from the starch of Indian corn."
    "How Lager Beer in Made",
    New York Times 8/20/1881.
     
  19. moodenba

    moodenba Pooh-Bah (2,502) Feb 2, 2015 New York
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    Corn prices are actually relatively high. The jump in prices had been primarily attributed to the use of corn-derived alcohol in gasoline. One stated reason for this use is to reduce greenhouse gases. However, most experts think that gasohol is, at best, break even. Another bad outcome with the higher price is that low income populations (see Mexico) are severely impacted by the high costs.
     
  20. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    As you may recall, I recently conducted a blind tasting of 4 AALs and one craft helles lager. At least to my palate, all of the AALs had a fairly noticeable corn flavor component, with bud having the least amount of that flavor. I assumed this was likely the result of the corn syrup added during the brewing process, but perhaps there was some other cause.

    I still remember some years ago having a bottle of mich light, and being amazed by the amount of sweet creamed corn I picked up. Again, I have no explanation for why it tasted that way (but it was pretty pronounced).
     
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