The future of the large distributing craft breweries?

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  1. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    The ongoing thread about how Heineken, which owns Lagunitas, deciding to close down the large Lagunitas Chicago brewery got me thinking (again) about the future for the large craft breweries that have wide distribution.

    One example of a large distributing craft brewery is Sierra Nevada. Sierra Nevada has two large craft breweries: Chico, CA and Mills River, NC. According to Wikipedia they have an annual production volume of 1.25 million barrels.

    In recent years other large craft breweries have sold out:

    · Stone Brewing to Sapporo

    · Bell’s Brewing to Lion (Kirin)

    · New Belgium Brewing to Kirin

    · Etc.

    I just visited the Sierra Nevada website to see the beers they list as being core beers: SNPA, Torpedo, Atomic and two variety packs. And then they have a Little Things ‘sub brand’ where seven beers are listed starting off with Hazy Little Thing. I suppose providing more brands under the Little Things umbrella is an adjustment to make things exciting to ‘newer’ beer drinkers?

    Circling back to the question posed in the title, what do you think is the future for the craft brewing ‘big boys’?

    Will there be continued closures akin to the Lagunitas Chicago brewery being closed? Will Sierra Nevada decide to close one of their breweries?

    Will there be continued sellouts to Mega-breweries akin to Sapporo and Kirin?

    Maybe something else altogether?

    Cheers!
     
  2. elNopalero

    elNopalero Grand Pooh-Bah (5,822) Oct 14, 2009 Michigan
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    I think we are definitely entering an era of restructuring, consolidation, and closures. One model worth including is the small/regional craft brewer selling to another of comparative stature— Drake’s acquisition of Bear Republic comes to mind here.
     
  3. DarkDragon999

    DarkDragon999 Maven (1,331) Feb 13, 2013 Rhode Island

    OP you're in PA so what about Victory ? I'd consider them a large craft brewery even though many outside of the northeast region probably never heard of them.
     
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  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Victory sold out to a ‘holding company’, Artisanal Brewing Ventures (ABV), a number of years ago. ABV also purchased Southern Tier, Sixpoint and other businesses. The theory is that by ‘consolidating’ there are economies of scale. Also, Sixpoint beers are now brewed at the Victory brewery in Parkesburg, PA.

    I guess that as a consolidated business, ABV is doing well nowadays?

    Cheers!
     
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  5. Mikeloveshamms

    Mikeloveshamms Aspirant (275) May 9, 2021 Ohio

    I personally think that large craft brewers may have to scale back what they distribute in the future.
    Thinking about Sierra Nevada I could see a scenario where they only distribute SNPA, the hazy little thing line and Tropical Torpedo but only in the 19.2 oz cans as year round beers. I think the seasonal releases will stay but their other beers may only be available at the brewery or as online orders.

    I think as a big brewery you lose the cool factor, and even though your beers may be great they just don’t excite the masses.
     
  6. jageraholic

    jageraholic Pooh-Bah (1,632) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
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    I see more consolidation in the future regionally. Recently Smuttynose bought Wachusett brewing which seemed like a big middle distro brewing in Mass. Also, Jack's Abby just bought out Wormtown. I expect more of this middle ground consolidation and probably more of the bigger brewers selling to the conglomerates as they get to retirement ages.
     
  7. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    I’d replace “masses” with “beer advocates”. I don’t think the masses really get excited about beer, just excited about getting drunk and/or various festivities.
     
  8. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    I think everything at the large scale will depend on profit and growth opportunity like any other soulless company with stakeholders that run things vs a business owner with a passion for their product or services offered. If craft beer loses growth opportunity, then it will just come down to the whether the brick and mortal space, land and equipment is worth investing in for repurpose.
     
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  9. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    Lagunitas had a plan very well set out in establishing their Chicago location. The same way Sierra Nevada had a plan for WHY they wished to establish themselves in Asheville. And it's one simple word that will satisfy the capability to deliver the one particular thing THEIR market of beer drinkers demand. The Logistics in getting a fresh ______ IPA. Sierra Nevada can continue to deliver fresh their IPA product to their east coast market while cutting costs the same way it can still deliver fresh product to its West Coast market. Lagunitas will have to figure out how to adapt their capabilities to this internal decision. Pity Waldo and the Born series.
     
  10. ATL6245

    ATL6245 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,984) Aug 16, 2018 Georgia
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    I'd say the Victory brand is still strong. We continue to get several of their beers in the Atlanta area. The Festbier Marzen is one I have to get every October.
     
  11. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    It probably comes down to the individual companies and their debt load. They've got to be looking at a near/medium term prospect of relatively flat growth in the market and should probably plan for basically stable output as a best case. If they're financials depend on continued expansion then there's trouble and they'll have to cut out major financial burdens or sell out or something.

    But the well established ones that aren't carrying a massive debt and who already have secured shelf space in the large retailers/grocers of their core regions will probably fair pretty well.

    I won't be surprised to see more of the largest independent craft brewers picking up smaller, more local brands. There were some mentioned on the east coast, out here Deschutes acquired Boneyard (another Bend, Oregon based brewer) and now Boneyard sees wider distribution and Deschutes' capacity is probably better used.
     
  12. DarkDragon999

    DarkDragon999 Maven (1,331) Feb 13, 2013 Rhode Island

    Heavy Seas still hasnt been bought out yet. We've been getting their beers up here for quite a while now. I thought they were a large distributing craft brewery because they are from Maryland and they have reached up to the New England region.
     
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  13. CBlack85

    CBlack85 Pooh-Bah (2,762) Jul 12, 2009 South Carolina
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    they seem to be doing well in the Charlotte market, where they have a joint brewery/brewpub (Brewers at 4001 Yancy). I see their beers on tap frequently throughout the city, and the brewpub seems to always be busy
     
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  14. jvgoor3786

    jvgoor3786 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,222) May 28, 2015 Arkansas
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    I wonder if there's a comparison to the restaurant industry here? McDonald's, Burger King, and other giant, low priced, lower quality restaurants seem to be doing ok. But national, mid-priced chains like Red Lobster and Applebee's are closing and struggling. Is this a case of the biggest (and cheapest) aka BMC, etc. will survive along with the smallest and most local while most others will struggle?
     
  15. deanzaZZR

    deanzaZZR Maven (1,347) Jan 8, 2015 California

    At one point Lagunitas had plans to build a brewery in Azusa just to the east of LA. I don't read any trade publications. I do see a continued shrinking of beer offerings and not surprisingly "craft" brands owned by larger breweries like InBev continue to occupy what space remains.

    It's still easy to find plenty of quality local offerings at groceries not named Safeway although this tends to lead to a wall o' IPA 4-packs costing $16+. Please do check the canned on dates on the bottom.
     
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  16. Hollar

    Hollar Initiate (124) Nov 20, 2018 Minnesota

    Red Lobster's recent issues have a lot to do with the way venture capital comes in and loots businesses they purchase. Stone sold when the venture capital bill came due. I think the trick is to avoid letting VC get any leverage on you. Which breweries can manage to do that while expanding is the trick. Though it might be better for the breweries to just not expand. Not everything needs to be a globe-striding behemoth to be successful.
     
  17. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    The main driver was shipping costs. West to East is expensive as beer competes with space with produce in refrigerated trucks. East to West is cheap as the trucks are looking for loads so they don't run empty. I was told that the shipping savings was enough to pay for the brewery in a handful of years.
     
  18. ZebulonXZogg

    ZebulonXZogg Grand Pooh-Bah (3,142) May 5, 2015 Illinois
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    I live about 50 miles NW of Chicago. I have not seen SN seasonals in a couple of years, Bigfoot or Narwhal.
    We still get Pale Ale, Torpedo, a couple variety packs and that crazy/hazy crap.
     
  19. slander

    slander Pooh-Bah (2,568) Nov 5, 2001 New York
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  20. slander

    slander Pooh-Bah (2,568) Nov 5, 2001 New York
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    And Five Boroughs Brewing out of Brooklyn, NY...
     
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