This Pride Month, Big Beer Is Pulling Back from ‘Rainbow Capitalism’

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  1. LeinenkugelDrinker

    LeinenkugelDrinker Pooh-Bah (2,211) Feb 14, 2023 Nevada
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    A lot of things get mixed up inside the human brain. Gender dysphoria is a psychological disorder, and no matter what a person feels, the truth/science will remain the same.
     
  2. LeinenkugelDrinker

    LeinenkugelDrinker Pooh-Bah (2,211) Feb 14, 2023 Nevada
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    It’s just words as you said, but if a child is repeatedly saying delusional things at school then the parents should be informed.
     
  3. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    I won’t get into it more than this, but suffice to say that in the last few years we’ve had more delusional speech from supposedly responsible, functioning adults than I ever would have imagined if I hadn’t witnessed it myself. But it’s still just speech, and outside of a court of law there’s no practical way to regulate it. People can say whatever they want, and we can judge them accordingly.

    Maybe these parents need to work on building better relationships with their own kids if they expect the schools to inform them of things they should already be aware of.
     
  4. tasterschoice62

    tasterschoice62 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,949) May 14, 2014 Rhode Island
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    Ahh of course you're an expert right? You have experienced these feelings? And I commend you for coming out and speaking about it. Correct the science is undeniable.
     
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  5. LeinenkugelDrinker

    LeinenkugelDrinker Pooh-Bah (2,211) Feb 14, 2023 Nevada
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    Very true, and in no way should it be regulated.

    Also true, but kids do weird things to follow trends, or to “be cool” or to try to grab attention all the time. :beers:
     
  6. deleted_user_620894

    deleted_user_620894 Zealot (519) Sep 17, 2011

    I think the big problem people have with this is the “secretive” nature of keeping something from the parents. Proponents automatically assume the parents are going to disown/resent the child if they find out.
     
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  7. LeinenkugelDrinker

    LeinenkugelDrinker Pooh-Bah (2,211) Feb 14, 2023 Nevada
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    Not an expert by any means. I merely understand the basis of the condition. And not through personal experience, but through reading and discussion with other, more knowledgeable individuals.
     
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  8. LeinenkugelDrinker

    LeinenkugelDrinker Pooh-Bah (2,211) Feb 14, 2023 Nevada
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    I know some parents would instantly disown their child for coming out, but I’m sure that the vast majority would accept their kid for who he is. I mean, I’ve read stories where the parents of murderous wackos will still try to defend their child!
     
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  9. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    I’m not the one saying schools should report the free speech of students to their parents—isn’t that a form of regulation? Kids say all kinds of dumb shit at school and as a parent of a high school student I’d prefer not to know about most of it—what I do want to know about is if a student threatens other kids with physical harm, says they’re going to bring a gun to school, etc.
    Right, and if they violate a rule they should be disciplined and the parents should be notified. As far as I know, telling people you prefer to be called “they/them” doesn’t violate any rules. I could tell people at school or work that I hereafter want to be referred to as Beelzebub or P-Diddy or whatever that symbol was that Prince adopted for a while—and that’s just me being a little weird. There’s no law against it.
     
  10. DVMin98

    DVMin98 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,125) Nov 1, 2010 North Carolina
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    I'm all for "love who you want to love", but I can guarantee you my dollars don't go to a certain brewery just because they are LGBTQ+ friendly. I just like beer and I try to leave my politics out of it.
     
  11. tasterschoice62

    tasterschoice62 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,949) May 14, 2014 Rhode Island
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    I know from personal experience my daughter Is gay She recently came and said "Dad im gay." I already knew but i said said " yeah I know what else is on your mind" So I hear all the stories and I think nothing of anybody that thinks they actually know. There I said it.
     
  12. tasterschoice62

    tasterschoice62 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,949) May 14, 2014 Rhode Island
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    It's NOT POLITICS It's freedom of choice in The United States Of America
     
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  13. tasterschoice62

    tasterschoice62 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,949) May 14, 2014 Rhode Island
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    Congrats.
     
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  14. MutuelsMark

    MutuelsMark Grand Pooh-Bah (5,787) Jan 23, 2015 Kentucky
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    Can't wait until this post is archived
    Y'all are wearing me out :slight_smile:
     
  15. LeinenkugelDrinker

    LeinenkugelDrinker Pooh-Bah (2,211) Feb 14, 2023 Nevada
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    I suppose that could be considered a type of regulation, but these are minors we’re discussing, not adults. I’m simply stating that a parent should have the right to know about their child’s behavior, even if that behavior is perfectly acceptable.
     
  16. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    Sure. But. It's just that perception is reality an awful lot of the time, and we are very actively marketed towards accepting exactly that. So, the emotions gender dysphoria feed on will have a completely different agenda than what your belief in science will even allow.
     
  17. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    The brain is elastic. Consider this exercise.
     
  18. LeinenkugelDrinker

    LeinenkugelDrinker Pooh-Bah (2,211) Feb 14, 2023 Nevada
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    Emotions and urges are unpredictable and don’t follow any patterns in some people. For better or worse, that’s who they are. :beers:
     
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  19. LeinenkugelDrinker

    LeinenkugelDrinker Pooh-Bah (2,211) Feb 14, 2023 Nevada
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    Like I said, the basic premise isn’t very difficult to grasp. What’s beyond that is, and I’m not a psychologist so I have no valid opinion on that. :beers:
     
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  20. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    In an ideal world, maybe—but given that some kids are at greater risk from their own parents than from anyone else, I can understand why schools might not want to put those kids at risk. Would you want to be the teacher or administrator who has informed the parents about something a student said in class, possibly not even fully understanding the full context of the statement, only to learn that the kid was beaten (or worse) or kicked out of their home as a result? Schools occupy a unique function in our communities—for example, in some cases they’re the only place a kid can reliably get a hot meal—do you also want them to start policing what kids say? There are tough ethical questions here.

    I do think schools need to keep parents in the loop on certain potentially violent behavior, I just don’t see this as rising to that level of seriousness and could end up doing more harm than good.

    Anyway, I’m about to head out for a pre-Father’s Day dinner with my own family, so I’ll be signing off here. As usual I appreciate your respectful tone even though we clearly don’t agree about this. Cheers!
     
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